The public sector strikes

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Woodylubber, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. It's a fact that the Public Sector grew massively under the last government. It's a fact that that was partly to blame for a lot of our country's debt. In fact, 45% of those employed in the UK either work directly or indirectly for the Public Sector. It stands to reason then that tax generated from the Private Sector just isn't going to be enough to cover the bill. Right now, the government needs to be encouraging self employment entrepreneurism and as much trade with countries like China and Brazil as possible. It's the only solution. Either that or magic all the UK's manufacturing lost over the last 30 years to suddenly re-appear in the same way that Unions and Public Sector workers believe that billions of pounds can be conjured up out of thin air.
     
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  4. My girlfriend works for the MOD and has just started working down in abbeywood in Bristol. By all accounts, the place is like a butlins holiday camp. They send 6 people to a 1 hour meeting in Birmingham, stay overnight in a hotel and take 2 days out of the office!!! All on taxpayers money. Many of the staff are under performing but nobody can be bothered to deal with them! I could go on and on... Even she gets annoyed about it! Ok, each government department is different but some need a real shock and should trying working in the real world!!!
     
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  6. Woodylubber

    Woodylubber Obsessive compulsive name changer

     
  7. If I'm good in this life, hopefully I'll come back as a civil servant
     
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  9. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Not worth falling out over this, the 2 sides are unlikely to ever agree.
    Private Sector workers think Public Sector workers have it easy. Public Sector Workers think they're hard done by. The reality is (imho) that both sides have to accept that something needs to give to drag the Country out of the situation its in.
    Will anything be acheived by the strike? I personally doubt it, in fact I think it'll harm their reputation further with Private Sector workers but thats by the by.
     
  10. I don't think anyone has it easy but we have to start talking about pensions and future provision somewhere. As for working until I'm 68, can you honestly say you'd want a 68 yr old teaching your very young kids?
     
  11. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Probably not, but would you want a 75 year old project managing your multi million pound project?
    With an ever increasing life expectancy its a very real prospect, and theres not a lot we can do about it.
    The difference is some of us decide to just man-up and get on with it, others dont.
     
  12. It's not a question of 'manning up' where will the jobs be for all the younger folk? In education it's already 'dead man's shoes' 250 graduates applied for 1 teaching job in Liverpool last year, we advertised for a temp position and got 109 applicants and at the end of last July there was the grand total of 5 vacant positions in primary schools in the whole of the authority due to the workforce ageing and there being no 'natural wastage'
     
  13. The one I had to laugh hard at was the teacher in the paper the other day, it went something like this "I have to take work home work me each night and end up working a 9 hour day every day, I work at least half my holiday unpaid".

    Well I work 9 hour days at a minimum, excluding the 90 minutes door to door each way and I I get less than half a teachers holiday! So we are pretty much even then!
     
  14. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Michelle works for SureStart - Notts County Council based, she was on strike yesterday, she had no choice in the matter but, getting some things across from our point of view...

    She had to strike, she had no choice, Ellie's school was on strike, we had no one to look after her

    Michelle lost a days wage because of the industrial action. She had no choice.

    Bear in mind that Notts County Council have done job reevaluation, because of this she is loosing £5000 yes five thousand pounds from her salary next april and also, the "re evaluation team" have decided they are not qualified to do there own jobs anymore.

    They have an extra workload piled on them, they are expected to carry equipment in there own vehicles.

    Any training courses are not being paid for by NCC.

    And they cant have any black pens :(

    So, does this tar her with the same brush becuse she was on strike?
     
  15. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Sorry, "man-up" should probably have been "be willing to take one for the team."

    I'm not sure how some people think decent pensions should be paid, without an increased level of contribution, for an increased period of time due to longer life expectancy? Surely either a) pensions will have to decrease, or b) contributions will have to increase, or c) everyone will have to go to Dignitas at the age of 80???
     
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  17. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Maybe I'm missing something but I can't for the life of me see how striking helps the situation we're in regarding lack of jobs? In the private sector maybe (as we'd simply get sacked, hence clearing a position for someone else) but that doesn't happen in the Public sector.
    Can't help thinking that's more of an excuse for the strike rather than a genuine reason.
     
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  19. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Ha ha ha!
     
  20. Woodylubber

    Woodylubber Obsessive compulsive name changer

     

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