The public sector strikes

I am defo a taker, I watched the council sell of all the houses and blow all my council tax on spongers and thought sod this for a game of soldiers, I'll build some houses and get them to pay for them for me, then when I retire I can take the rent as my pension, lets face it, there is no shortage of spongers looking for the council to pay for them.... I am just doing what the government wanted and "building more houses" because the council are too stupid and too broke to do it (too broke to do it because all their money pays the public sector pensions haha)

So, in actual fact I am a giver too

I should be on the side of the public sector workers I guess, if they get increased pensions, then the council get less money and will def not be able to build houses which protects my rent result..... up the public sector..........strike strike strike

 

Public sector workers need to join the real world of the private sector, no pay rise for 4 years and in constant fear of redundancy, pension worth f**k all then you hear people whining as their cushy deal has become not so cushy, still a damn site better then mine tho!!!!!!!

 

Too true Dave, i work for a recruitment agency and the guys we have working for us are grateful of the work even if it's NMW (=£6.08 to the public sector peeps ;D ) and if they call in sick or don't work then they don't get paid! now with the AWR joke that the unions pushed for all that's done is created more costs to employers and agencies on top of turnover in the work place.

When the economy is on it's knees who don't you turn to...union sheep dogs : almost as bad as the BNP :-

Clarkson should get a medal for his comments ;D

 

I'm a public sector worker...but I am not lawfully allowed to strike...I like my colleagues past and present have paid in excess of 450 quid a month into a pension scheme in the belief that this would go into a pot that would support mine and my colleagues future pension payments, this pot has long since been spent filling the hole in the treasury caused by the goverment bailing out the bankers ...why should we have to pay more now that the goverment have screwed everything up and the bankers get away scott free....oh and why are'nt the mp's having their pensions changed ??? last time I checked an MP only had to work 4 years before they could claim their pension where as I have to work 30 years.

Mark

 

last time I checked an MP only had to work 4 years before they could claim their pension where as I have to work 30 years.

And those of us who work in the private sector have to work for 50+ years, arnt you hard done by!!!!!!!!

 

wish i could afford to pay £450 in to my pension pot pcm i must be in working in the wrong sector

 

I work for a high street bank and have had my pension benefits reduced, so all this talk of bankers causing the problem and getting away with it are untrue. Anyway, if 'bankers', as a generalisation, are to blame (rather than the isolated few that are investment bankers), then surely the civil servants are equally culpable for the faults of the government, who are as much to blame for the current problems through slack policies? It cuts both ways....

So, my pension benefits have already been cut, my state pension age has increased - meaning I need to pay in more to get the same standard of living at the same age as previously. But I am expected to pay more for civil servants to remain the same, which in essences means I have less to pay for my own provision, making my own situation worse?!?!?!?!?

The current low return, low interest rate, high inflation economy, along with the fact we are living longer and longer means that we all have to adapt, make changes and compromise . Any section of society to think otherwise is selfish and putting their own needs in front of others.

 

Pensions and (pointless) strikes are nothing in comparison to what will happen (probably in January or February) when the Euro collapses. Basic economics suggests there's absolutely no way on earth Italy can survive. A slight increase (it'll take less than 1%) in the interest it pays on its debt will be enough to topple the entire Euro zone (to whom we export the majority of our produce and to whom our banks have lent billions and billions of pounds). Inflation and unemployment will rise massively and we'll enter a period of deep recession never before experienced. It'll be so severe that even Public Sector workers might notice.

2012 is set to be a real bitch of a year.

 

The private sector was the place to be if you wanted better wages, bonuses, opportunities. The Public sector was the place to be if you wanted better job security and longer term financial security but were prepared to earn less. I remember discussing the credit crunch with a builder friend of mine right at the very beginning of the credit crunch who was telling me how hard things were getting. Fortunately he hadnt paid himself the big wages and spent his money on a premium car, big house and all the chattels of success that most of his ilk had done during the boom years and is weathering the storm. I recall saying to him that as soon as things got hard then the media and the greedy bastards who have had the big wages the flash cars the big houses, the multiple foreign holidays would come for the public sector workers who plod on and make do with an adequate existance. Its always the case.

As for some of the posters on this subject can you say, hand on heart you have paid your dues that your accountant hasnt been creative, that you have saved for your retiremnent. How have you benefitted society, who have you helped and why do you so want to denegrate those who serve the people of this country.

 

I have a simple idea. Well you are a simple man Dazzle, i hear you cry )

Get a shoe box and put money in that each month, keep it under the bed and keep it up for many years starting from now. Write on it with a black maker pen, pension fund and then dont touch it until you retire.

That way no mucker can get their hands on you cash. Yes they'll be no intrest on it but like whats been said intrest is penunts anyway so it really doesnt matter. Just a thought.

 

One way that Public Pension schemes benefit us all is that large percentages are invested in infrastructure projects, just like the Government are trying persuade private schemes to do to inject some capital into creating jobs and getting things moving. Its a bit of a self help scheme as far as the public schemes are involved- good luck with the private ones. As It will be private companies delivering the infrastructure projects then I hope that not tooooo much of that is frittered away on Directors pensions, shareholder dividends and company profits.

Its better than sticking it in a shoe box though as if we all did that then there would be no investment, no fluidity and no money in the banks anyway.

 

Tell that to the Paramedic when yer ticker packs up. Or the street lighting engineer when your neighbourhood is in pitch black and you darent go out. Who you gonna complain to about the dog Marmite on your doorstep or wonder why no-one tried to do anything to stop the toerag robbing your house.