40 year rule for MOT exemption to come in 2018

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SimonRev, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. scrooge95

    scrooge95 Moderator and piggy bank keeper

    Interesting.
    I read somewhere (probably the oracle of farcebook :rolleyes: ) that it will come into force on May 20th next year.... so it could be that my van has it's last MOT already. .....Nah, I'm like @pkrboo - I know it's not a guarantee of all things safety related, but it's still a second pair of eyes looking at important things like brakes n tyres n stuff like that, so for the sake of £49 a year I'll most likely still be taking Clem in for his yearly check up.
     
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  2. I wouldn't be surprised if our insurance companies insist on a test anyway. Why would you insure a vehicle against accidents if you've no evidence at all of roadworthiness?
     
  3. But how will they know? When I had the engine changed I provided DVLA with the new capacity and an engine number. They have nothing to say what the power was before or after. Be interested to see how its policed, if it can be on the information they hold. Anyway I'm quite happy having the bus checked on an annual basis.
     
  4. I'd be a bit worried that an unscrutible tester who tests a vehicle that doesn't legally need a test, may tell you that stuff needs doing, just to make a few quid.
     
  5. I wouldn't be surprised if once you mot it then you are bound by its findings. For instance you have a bus that needs a bit of welding but is basically safe to drive. If you don't mot it then no worries. However if you decide to mot it for the sake of it and they fail it. I bet unless you have that welding done then your insurance would be invalid.
     
  6. Sweeet! That's 4 cars I dont have to test anymore and at least 1 of those is a complete death trap :thumbsup:
     
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  7. I bet the anpr would also show your bus was being driven on a failed mot so I bet you'd get a tug from traffic plod.

    Bet bet must be to forget getting the mot and just get a friendly garage to give it a once over once a year.
     
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  8. Vehicles are still required to be road worthy. No need to police directly, only at the point of something going wrong.

    You crash in a big way, nice accident investigators from the police come out and examine your vehicle. It's found to have faults that make it unroadworthy and the judge throws the book at you - ignorance is no excuse in eyes of law.

    If you have a smaller smash, same thing happens, but with an insurance assessor - unroadworthy, claim dismissed.

    Same with the modified clause. Self declare its all fine less than 15% power gain, and again when you crash (or are crashed into) plod/assessor politely inquires about proof of that turbo/scooby/2.5l screamer being pre 1988.

    The above isn't really a change from now, it just removes your ability to point at a recent MOT and say that an expert said it was fine, so it's not my fault the bakes failed/beam dropped off etc etc.

    As for having a voluntary MOT, again no need to enforce beyond requiring proof when you crash that you had fixed the issues highlighted. Removes any doubt about you knowing.

    I can't wait, not because I want to drive in an untested death trap, but because it will remove the yearly fuss of having a spotty oik poking something that he doesn't understand and failing it on some spurious reason that it doesn't look like a Ford Focus.
     
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  9. Fortunately, my MOT man is over 45 and well versed in busses. He does have a spotty oik available, though. They're called "vehicle technicians" these days.
     
  10. anyone worried about driving a death trap should consider something other than a t2 I'd think.
     
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  11. nell#2

    nell#2 Supporter

    How will they prove the 15% rule it's daft to worry too much about it. So many variations of "stock" on bays twin carb, FI, single carbs, ect unless it's obviously an engine swap I'm not sure they will pick up on it. It will stop the mot man telling me my power steering fluid was low on my bay. (Washer fluid)

    It won't help the guys at kiwi fit who motd my work van with no working seat belts on the passenger side. They did put 4 new tyres on thou
     
  12. The idea is that vehicles over a certain age are generally classed as classics and are well maintained and looked after by there loving owner. However there will be a lot of unscrupulous people out there.

    An MOT is only really valid on the day of the test. The horn could be faulty the next day and it would fail an MOT.

    I think VOSA would still stop you and check for a vehicles roadworthiness whether it needs an MOT or not.

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  13. I think a lot of people will fall foul of modifications to suspension and steering (I will but would get a test even if I didn't). From the document:

    To be considered as a VHI a number of components of the vehicle need to be of a
    design of which would have been fitted to that vehicle at the time of its manufacture. For example the
    vehicle must have the original unmodified chassis, suspension and steering assembly. The vehicle owner
    must consult the 8 point rule and verify that their vehicle meets these conditions.



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  16. I Know my way round my van, I will put it in for pre MOT check without the MOT. It will find anything I might miss
     
  17. Q plates all round if they enforce that 8 point check

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