40 year rule for MOT exemption to come in 2018

I suppose all those folks who had their vans lowered, because it's cool, will fall foul also, as this would be substantially modified, (adjustable beam)

 

and all it means is they continue to have MOT as they have since they owned their van

 

Im not bothered that i have to keep mot ing it
I would have been bothered if the new regs meant I was no longer tax exempt!

 

Clear as mud right now I will hold off the panic button until I know more details.
Bus been lowered? How will an inspector know. Some owners don't
Are those carbs solex or webbers? Some owners don't know
Oil shocks, gas shocks where will it end.
And don't tell me the government will put a data base of of all classics available for testers or inspectors. Insurance companies will use any and I mean any excuse to pull out of a claim so nothing will change on that front.
In an ideal world under this new ruling you should take it for its next mot if it passes then your good to go thanks please drive safely.
Round my way the old bill won't even pull people for jumping lights and mobile use. So pulling over old vans for looking lower than it should I would say slim on Their list of things to do.
Sadly it will see more rot boxes being driven and sold on so buyer beware in that score.
The fact is most hardened classic vehicle fans are responsible and understand the importance on not mucking things up for the community that supports them,so abusing the ruling will be daft and foolish.

 

if in doubt get an MOT, easy

 

I know an old boy with a Austin and his local garage won't even pre mot it as declaring it safe could leave them wide open for a where there's a Blame there's a claim types.
If they get took off the the mot database who will mot it?

 

they wont get taken off the database because they expect most owners to still get an MOT, plus it can be re-added. my import wasn't on the database and got mot'd fine the first time.

 

It looks like our restored, very solid, fully roadworthy van will still need an MOT as it has a 1776 motor and is lowered but the patchwork Beetle project won't!

 

What happens if you have a voluntary mot and it fails but you drive it to go on holiday anyway for example!!!!!! Can see the insurance companies not paying out that's for sure if something goes wrong !

 

Correct

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If it's failed MOT then it isn't roadworthy and therefore cannot be driven on the road.

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Correct. Its a pointless thing to imho. Worth having it checked but why mot it. I will probably have my mot station go through the motions. Likely they will be more critical. Over the years ive heard of testers who dislike old vehicles and fail them for fun, or indeed are a bit heavy handed and create work and cause damage. If you know your tester then get it checked. Mot if you wish but at your peril.

 

This is why my bus is MOT'd by the same garage every year as it's an old bloke who I trust absolutely with my bus (although now it has a Subaru engine, the clutch is a bit 'snatchy' and so he keeps stalling it on the ramp!! ). Not sure what I'm going to do when he retires though.

Interesting what you say about some testers being hyper-critical of older vehicles, because according to the statistics that doesn't lead to more fails - the stats show that older vehicles have a higher percentage pass rate than everyday modern vehicles. I think that's because owners of older vehicles are that much more worried about the possibility of failure and also tend to be more fastidious in preparing the vehicle for MOT.

However if it's your everyday vehicle, maintenance often gets missed, people just bung it in for a test and it fails. And the number of <3 year old cars that I've seen with blown bulbs etc is quite high now, because with 15-20,000 mile service intervals and no MOT for the first 3 years, people just don't look after their cars ("it's new, what can go wrong?").

 

But once they have informed you something is faulty you will need to replace immediately ... just like the MOT.

I was interested to see how many buses potentially get caught under substantial modification and it looks like loads will.

 

Its as per the draft guidance produced by the DOT ... how many changes do you think there will be.

 

Similar to me , mine was a 1600 originally then someone changed it to a 2.ltr type 4 in 1998 .
Your not really altering anything engine wise in a sense ...because the model if has brakes capable of dealing with 1.6 1.7 1.8 or 2ltr as options on the build sheet .

I think if you put those upper 3 engine sizes in an prototype bay that might be a different kettle .

 

Think imexplained my point there. Rather than rushing off to try to get mot repairs done you can get it done to resto standard. Clearly if something is dangerous you wouldnt drive it anyway. Weve all had fails which are appropriate but arent really that dangerous. A hole in an inner sill, an outrigger thats crusty etc.