"Wives, submit to your husbands, for that is what you should do as Christians" Crikey, this cherry picking is a piece of cake and I don't even have to talk to a Christian in person!
But he still got it wrong even after witnessing the Nazi propaganda Nuremberg rallies. http://rense.com/general43/lloyd.htm The above article was two years after this photo. Alarm bells? Liberals were determined to remove the power of the House of Lords which eventually allowed Irish Nationalists greater power in Westminster. The Liberal government had to appease Irish Nationalists by offering them Home Rule/ devolution in exchange for their support in a budget vote. With no House of Lords to block the Home Rule Bills, led to the arming of Ulster Unionists who were not going having their British nationality forcibly removed from them. The British Army refused to shoot loyal British citizens and revolted against the Liberal government. A civil war would have erupted in the UK. There was no support amongst the people of Ireland for independence during the Liberal government era, not until the execution of the 1916 Easter Rising leaders did it gain support. The people then sympathised with hardline republicans. Civil War broke out in southern Ireland during Lloyd George's leadership and a Gaelic purist state was formed after that. Read some of the speeches of De Valera, he was no moderate of course, a violent extremist and signed the book of condolence for Hitler when he died. The Irish government then went on to set up the IRA to finish the job in Ulster. Appeasement of extremists.
We moved on from 2000 year old Middle Eastern society. The difference is that Muslims haven't moved on from that era.
As well as being another one of your sweeping generalisations, in terms of the life of our planet, it wasn't so long ago we were burning heretics. Not so long ago we decriminalised same sex relationships and removed anti blasphemy laws. A mere nano second ago really. Not all countries, Muslim,Christian or other "move on" at the same time do they? While you're here, got any more links from confirmmyprejudices.com?
Decriminalising same sex marriages isn't the same thing as killing gay people for being gay, seriously get a grip if you can't observe the differences between the Middle East and Western Europe in TODAY's society.
There is a summary difference between getting a point across and 'winning' one. Why do you feel the need to hammer a point home, and to engineer that you have to place the person not agreeing with you as being opposite? Your 'grip' is semi ranting, cherry pick sound bites, its not coming across as enlightened in any way.....you are not the Messiah! I enjoyed the lecture on liberals and their ills, my stating that I don't share your right of centre views and thus am liberal doesn't sign me up as therefore as an actual badge wearing party activist ffs! It still doesn't seem to registering with you that: A) we all agree that Islam related acts of violence are far from good B) that there are facets of that religion that are at odds to 'western values'. Where you don't seem to be able to engage is why I: A) don't agree that it's 'on the up' without seeing actual stats, I suspect that violence to and by Muslims is on the up, as it is in relation to no religion and non racist motives...it's simply up across the board. B) nominate that we are focussing on that far higher than in the past, at the expense of all other reporting. You might guffaw and state it's because its on the rise, but is that across the board or is that genuinely an anomaly, can anyone actually say? C) believe absolutely that we are heading for war, in Europe, possibly on home ground. A society that is probably the most integrated in the world is firmly being manipulated down a path of them and us, on both sides. Why? More immigrants are arriving causing tension. Why? Because they are fleeing war in Syria. Why is there a war in Syria? Who gains by a war in Syria? Isis? Who's buying their oil and selling them Toyota Landcruisers, Internet accounts, phones, weapons? I think stating that the Muslim faith is simply hateful and violence doesn't match what is happening. If 1 billion Muslims were all exactly the same then we would know about it. Thus, who is enabling the more extreme facets? Why are they doing it, for what outcome? The old notion that nations could do as the spaniards did to the inca is simply not relevant. Your hammering home of 'the problem' is getting to the point of such irrelevance I'm unsure how to progress this.
Wow....just wow. I'm not getting in to a Google war with you, I'll refer to what I was taught, my dad, who was Irish. Look up Potato Famine. That might help you a little with what an epically wrong statement that is....try reading non English commentary a little.
I've just read some of this. I don't know (n'or am I interested in) the history of Islam, NI, Germany, the Burkha, The Koran, Sharia Law etc etc but I can say with confidence that the place would be a damn site better if everyone just stopped trying to kill everyone else. Am I the messiah?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rmany-city-munchen-armed-police-a7151186.html Thanks Merkel...!
Just to lighten the mood for a moment I remembered this from years back when I was a lad " The Likely Lads " Couldn't find a video coz it's that old but here's the script, probably just about sums me and many others up Bob: I bet we could go right round the world and you'd have a pat response ready. Terry: I've travelled man, I've seen a bit of the world now you know. Bob: What do you think of Koreans, for instance? Terry: Not to be trusted. Cruel people. Much the same as all Orientals. Bob: That's a third of the world's population dismissed in a phrase. Russians? Terry: Sinister. Bob: Egyptians? Terry: Cowardly. Bob: Oh? I thought you might have saved that for Italians. Terry: No, no, they're greasy aren't they? Not as greasy as the French mind. Bob: Germans? Terry: Arrogant. Bob: Spaniards? Terry: Lazy. Bob: Danes? Terry: Pornographic. Bob: Well that's just about everyone. Oh, Americans? Terry: Well, they're flash aren't they? Bob: So it's just down to the British is it? Terry: Well, I haven't got much time for the Irish or the Welsh, and the Scots are worse than the Koreans. Bob: And you never could stand Southerners. Terry: To tell you the truth I don't like anybody much outside this town. Terry: And there's a lot of families in our street I can't stand either. Come to think of it I don't even like the people next door. Bob: I see, so from the distant blue Pacific through the barren wastes of Manchuria, to 127 Inkerman Terrace, you can't abide anyone.
Maybe I tried to lighten the mood a bit to early, Mass shooting in shopping center in Germany Like the last incident I Bet he's also not called Fritz
I'm not a badge wearing centre of right political activist! Never voted Tory in my life. The 1916 Easter Rising didn't have any mainstream support, it was a tiny group of militants who started it. Sinn Fein were not even involved in it, but took the credit. I know the potato famine, Ireland had maybe three famines as did most of Europe. The previous famines killed many more Irish people yet the 1845 famine is always quoted by Irish nationalists. How come? This famine coincided with the rise of Irish nationalism and has been used as anti British propaganda tool for the Catholic Church and Irish Republicans ever since. The political model of the day was laissez-faire, no government interference and work your way through poverty. Not the neo-liberal model we have today where every part of our lives are measured and interfered with. So poverty stricken areas just like every other part of the world would be hit hard. Charity didn't exist in those days. I'm sure the English could have done more, but centuries of rebellion hasn't helped the Irish one bit. Raising armies against a powerful protestant neighbouring England. Siding with Catholic European dictators who massacred the new Protestant reformers throughout Europe. Disloyalty, massacres of Irish protestants and being on the loosing side doesn't win you Brownie points. Every other European nation doesn't dwell on centuries old wars, the Irish should learn to move on instead of trying to fight some 800 year old war. It was Irish catholic rebellion against the Church of Rome which sent the Catholic Norman English over in the first place.
Are you stating that the naughty Irish should have taken their occupation with better grace? Look, I can't help you...your posts are like a dog with a bone, you try and relate complex issues with ridiculous over simplification. "Every other European nation doesn't dwell on centuries old wars, the Irish should learn to move on instead of trying to fight some 800 year old war". So on the one hand you are sh1t scared of the world, Europe, the U.K. Being taken over by Muslims yet state the above? Plainly the British/English whatever should simply accept this influx, abide by their laws, suffer their tyranny and get over it....what are you so scared of?!!? For such a gift of stating cause and effect...the Catholic Church doing X, Protestants doing Y, the nationalist gaining Z....yet you can't at all accept my statement that there is something behind all this? I'm concluding that you don't have an answer (not that it actually matters if you or I are correct anyway) because you don't want to see the cause just the symptoms....
