why do lorry drivers think they have the right to block lanes?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rickyrooo1, Mar 6, 2016.

  1. this is exactly what happens in Henlade trying to get on the M5 at Taunton. The lorries block the outside lane and then the tailback goes right back through the lights and causes an even bigger jam at the preceding junction. If they stopped doing it the apparent stretch of meaningless dual carriageway would be full of two equal queues of traffic and the junction would be clear. Just because they have a big vehicle that no one will argue with they feel the need to impress there rule on others. I except that not all lorry drivers are like this, just as not all car drivers are knobs either.............
     
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  2. matty

    matty Supporter

    Part of the problem is people think its their right to drive not a privilege, along with cars are too easy to drive if there was a big spike to the steering wheel i bet there would be less accidents, i think everyone should have to take a retest of sorts every 10years when you renew your licence as we all pick up bad habits and the rules change.

    i do feel sorry for the lorry drivers part of the overtaking going up hill is as we know in our van as soon as you lift off you lose all momentum if one lorry is more powerful than the other we get the problem.
     
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  3. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

    Until the world has only driverless vehicles there will be those who speed down and force their way in.
    Yes both lanes should be used till the pinch point but this can cause problems with timid drivers letting in to many so matey behind gets road rage.
     
  4. Pudelwagen

    Pudelwagen Supporter

    I wonder how two lanes of driverless vehicles would merge into one?
     
  5. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    One answer....

     
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  6. sANDYbAY

    sANDYbAY On benefits-won't sponsor!

    Presumably they'd be programmed to use both lanes up to the merge point and then merge in turn like the teeth in a zip, (just like we should).
    Lorries that decide they are in charge of filtering wind me up as well but I'm now older and wiser and just sit behind them until it all gets sorted into one lane, it makes no difference really.
    I've developed a mental trick which saves me the need to stress about the aggressive drivers that speed and push in. I assume they've just been told their wife/child/Mum is desperately ill in hospital and they are rushing to the hospital to say a fond and tearful goodbye.
    Obviously 99.9% are just selfish, thoughtless idiots but my mental gymnastics means I can magnanimously accept their bad behaviour without getting worked up and awash with adrenaline. The 'Fight or Flight' response has no place inside a car.
     
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  7. matty

    matty Supporter

  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I also just chill and chuckle at those that haven't allowed enough time, still plannning their journeys as if the roads were empty.
     
  9. He also sounds like a dick.
    So he was so incensed at his journey taking an extra 2 or 3 minutes that he decided to waste even more of his valuable time acting like a bellend on the motorway. What an intelligent chap.
     
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  10. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    I think he just thought as they'd wasted hundreds of people's time with their unwillingness of either of them to drop 1 or 2 mph, he'd waste a bit of theirs. It was on an uphill bit; he'd have been back up to speed in about 10 seconds, it would have taken them ages.
    I didn't say it was right, just that I applauded him.

    Funny isn't it; the only people who defend truck drivers are truck drivers.
    Them driving like *****s is because of their more accurate speedos; anyone reacting to the way they drive is an idiot.
     
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  11. The issue is that this 'last second merging maneuver' isn't a mistake...it's a conscious decision made by selfish road users. You need to change people's mindset, and tweak the infrastructure. This would be very difficult indeed, given that we all have selfish tendencies. The British are renown the world over for their courtesy when it comes to queueing...we tend to be self-policing in this regard...pushing in at the supermarket gets short shrift and scowls from others in the queue....something happens to some people when they get behind the wheel.

    Merging two streams of traffic is always likely to cause problems, at peak times....it requires cooperation....a good example of getting drivers to act collectively are interval chevrons, where drivers are asked to keep two chevrons apart...long term studies have shown these to be very effective. Having these on the approach lanes to a merged section, together with an enforced speed restriction, would help to create the necessary spacing to enable merging in turn to take place IMO.
     
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  12. Betty the Bay

    Betty the Bay Supporter

    Think my post might have caused this thread to wander away from rickyroos original thread. ...sorry. .now don't get me started on people parking outside my house on MY road, in my parking spot. ......lol.
     
  13. How come everyone has shared their experiences of bad drive by HGV's and you've decided to comment on one of them and call me the dick??!!

    Where's all the dick comments on all the other experiences??!!
     
  14. It's interesting tho that the merge in turn war does not happen at a two lane McDonald's drive through. People are very happy to go "in turn" as they ordered. no pushing, no shoving polite as you like. I was going to point out that you don't get HGV's in drive through's but that would just be warmongering. :D
     
  15. Actually I announced someone else to be a dick too. Don't take it personally. It's a special accolade for people whose driving style makes them sound like a dick !
     
  16. My brothers called Dick Payne. Do i win a prize?
     
  17. sANDYbAY

    sANDYbAY On benefits-won't sponsor!

    My driving style is 'quick' do I win a prize?
     
  18. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    are you sure you're not getting your dick comments/driving/shagging mixed up? or did the name quickdraw bob come from somewhere else?
     
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  19. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    In defence of truckers, slightly off Rick' s original question.

    Each day a driver has to do a 15 minute check on his vehicle by law.

    He is in charge of a vehicle up to 61 ft long and longer in certain cases That weighs up to 35 times heavier than the average car.

    His peripheral vision is constant and monitors the road up to three miles ahead and behind and both sides of his truck.

    A truck driver by nature of his job always plans his journey.

    A truck driver has a medical after the age of 45 to assess his medical ability to do the job and every 5 years after. At 65 it is yearly.

    Every HGV truck driver in this country has taken at least one advanced driving test and has undergone 35 hours training every 4 years on road and load safety To get his CPC. Like it or not.

    When you buy a large breakable item in a shop and worry about getting it home safely, remember a truck driver probably delivers up to 30 ton of those safely over vast distances.many many times.

    When you have to get up early and pack the car for your yearly holiday and yawn while thinking of the traffic and the distance, think how truckers do your early journey and back daily and more.

    Truckers have a licence that records their every move and hours worked in the truck, which can be downloaded at the roadside by a officer of the law whether he is in his truck or car. and it holds the records for his last 28 days driving commercially.

    Driving a HGV or commercial vehicle means they are subject to stringent roadside ministry checks and often are. The vehicle has to be in tip top Condition to avoid big accumulative fines. The vehicle is his responsibility.

    A trucker is regarded by the law as a responsible road user and as such can be held responsible for all manner of things that are not applicable to car drivers. As a example- Phone usage fines are heavier penalty points than car users. up to four for a car driver and 6 for a HGV driver

    The law of averages are against a truck driver regarding accidents and vehicle damage. A trucker may well lose his job after a minor accident or damage to the vehicle.

    Yes you get the odd trucker that is below standard,but how many car drivers do the above checks, have the same peripheral awareness, plan their route, can load up their vehicle safely, do the miles a trucker does, and know the rules of the road to that extent. How many truck drivers do you see Sat in the middle or outside lane for no obvious reason when the inner lane is clear for mile after mile other than the poor soul trying to fight his governor and get past a slower vehicle that infuriates not just him, but other road users. How many times have you seen trucks putting their brakes on because another inconsiderate car drivers is sat in the centre lane blocking him from getting out to overtake.

    There are a awful lot of car drivers out there some ( a lot ) not medically fit to drive playing on their phones, weaving in and out of lanes, oblivious to the road ahead above 50 yards moaning about truckers holding them up on a relatively short stretch of dual carriageway.

    We aren't all that bad. Thankfully
     
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2016
  20. you missed the picking up ladies in disdress also malc .
     
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