Michael Schumacher

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Razzyh, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    More from F1 former Doc

    Tuesday press conference – take 1
    I really need to get out and get stuff done, so I’ll post a more (this sounds SOOOOO ridiculous) ummmm . . . detailed analysis (ahem) of the presser when I’m back. Meanwhile, a synthesis. 4 main conclusions for me, for now:

    Michael is in VERY good hands. It doesn’t matter a hoot that this or that famous neurosurgeon and/or neurointensivist would or wouldn’t do this or that element of Michael’s treatment, the point is that these guys are smart, they’re talking to each other and to the family, and they seem technically up to the job. Oh and by the way, the decision to evacuate the second, intracerebral, hematoma seems to me, a non neurointensivist, to make sense. But more on this later.
    It sounds retrospectively that MichaeL’s ICP was worrisomely and persistently high yesterday, despite the right sided bone flap not having been closed. This was a standard and totally normal decision Sunday in the OR. The ICP problem was so worrisome that they considered a dip to be a “respite” allowing them to scoot to the scan. Now remember, I’m piecing this together from the words used, so everything I say is therefore subject to interpretation. But we’ve all had patients like this and agonised over going to the scan, coz until just before (the respite they’re talking about) every time we TOUCHED them their ICP shot up. So the decision was made to gain some room, and drain what sounds like superficial left-sided hematoma. These are usually left alone, and it had previously (and reasonably) been decided NOT to touch this one. But given the ICP problem, and that overall the brain was less “angry”, it was decided to evacuate it, especially as this meant leaving the left sided bone flap off.
    This leads me to insist on just how sick Michael was yesterday. These guys were sweating bullets, doing everything known to man to help, and they deserve a lot of credit. But this was SERIOUSLY life threatening minute to minute yesterday.
    Lastly, I think we can A) reset all the countdown clocks we started yesterday (time to reduce sedation, time to wean from vent, etc). And B) insist on just how severely Michael is injured. Be patient. This is gonna take a long time.
     
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  2. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    I'm sure they really appreciate that you deem them "technically up to the job"
     
  3. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I think he's quoting the ex F1 doc - though @Razzyh approval is the gold seal...!
     
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  4. Terrordales

    Terrordales Nightshift

    Gary Hartstein @former_F1doc knows what he's talking about. He was hand picked by the late great Prof. Sid Watkins to take over when he retired. Pity the powers that be didn't like him & his outspoken manner.
     
  5. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Ah right, I thought the accountant had turned neuro-surgeon!
     
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  6. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Might earn more money if I did.

    I did say more from F1 former Doc at beginning of post :thumbsup:

    I appreciate you thought I know what I was talking about though.

    Respect :)
     
  7. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I'd be concerned if he were a former doc though.....what's he now then?
     
  8. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Former F1 doc - who knows what he does now?

    I believe he was forced out of F1 by the FIA for being outspoken - politics :rolleyes:

    Might even be retired for all I know
     
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  9. My main concern would be that he's a gynaecologist :eek:
     
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  10. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    From wiki


    Dr Gary Hartstein, M.D., is Clinical Professor of Anesthesia and Emergency Medicine at University of Liège Hospital, Liège, Belgium and former FIA Medical Delegate for the Formula One World Championship
     
  11. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    From auto sport . Com

    Formula 1 drivers want answers over ousting of Dr Gary Hartstein
    By Edd Straw Saturday, November 24th 2012, 13:11 GMT

    Grand Prix Drivers' Association chairman Pedro de la Rosa plans to discuss the decision not to give Formula 1's medical delegate Gary Hartstein a new contract with the FIA.

    Hartstein, who has held the role since 2005, revealed that he would not be given a new deal ahead of the United States Grand Prix despite being keen to continue.

    De la Rosa preferred not to be drawn on the subject until he has had an explanation from the FIA but admitted that the drivers were surprised by the decision.

    The matter has been discussed within the GPDA, with an agreement that de la Rosa should speak with the FIA.

    "We will speak with [FIA race director] Charlie [Whiting] about it and see what his view is, what the plan is and who is going to be the substitute," de la Rosa told AUTOSPORT.

    "We would like to have someone we know, someone who is experienced, someone who we trust. Unfortunately, there are not many people.

    "But before I answer that question [of whether the FIA should reconsider the decision] I would like to speak with the FIA to know what their thinking is.

    "All I can say is that Gary is someone who we feel extremely comfortable with.

    "We are surprised and definitely looking into who will be his replacement."

    The FIA would not comment on the reasons for the decision, or on the possible identity of Hartstein's successor.

    De la Rosa paid tribute to the "outstanding" job that Hartstein has done, adding that the drivers would be keen for him to continue.

    "He has done an outstanding job and he's someone that the drivers feel very comfortable with.

    "We would be more than happy for him to continue. We need people like him who are experienced and that knows us all very well.

    "That makes a big difference when you have to be in the hands of the doctor. He knows exactly who we are, what we are and he knows our personalities."

    This weekend will mark Hartstein's 247th grand prix.
     
  12. I was joking ;)

    I honestly don't there's any point in speculating how things will turn out for Schumi - even the doctors won't know until he wakes up. May be good (hopefully), may be not so good...
     
  13. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    That'll need one big business card, fair play to him.
     
  14. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    I know but it was bugging me what the Doc was doing now.
     
  15. Terrordales

    Terrordales Nightshift

    Latest update

    Michael Schumacher's condition has remained stable since Tuesday after spending a third night in a coma in hospital.

    Schumacher remains in a critical condition overall and is still in intensive care at the Centre Hospitalier Universitaire in Grenoble. His manager Sabine Kehm made a brief statement outside the hospital on Wednesday morning, saying there would not be a another press conference with Schumacher's medical team until there is further news to report.

    "Michael's condition has been carefully supervised all night and has remained stable overnight until now," Kehm said. "This is good news for the moment, and I repeat for the moment, because overall the situation is still critical. He remains in an artificial coma and this is all I can say. I don't want to go into any further speculation about any outcomes or prospects."

    On Tuesday doctors reported a slight improvement in Schumacher's condition following a second operation to reduce pressure on his brain. However, with further lesions remaining on his brain they warned that he is not out of danger yet.


    Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/140691.html#aCQUCF70sQFlBQvF.99
     
  16. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    You patently feel very threatened by these people if they stir such emmotion, do you think they noticed?

    Maybe a PM might clear the air?
     
  17. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I doubt it, by his own admission he's been on a 3 day mission to destroy his own liver.
     
  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Happy Birthday to Michael. not going to be such a good one.
     
  19. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Not looking good is it :(
     
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