Lockdown and travel restrictions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Ian Jones, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. @crossy2112 Love Deep purple
     
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  3. crossy2112

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    Go on then :)
     
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  4. Mornin ! my go :)
     
  5. Pudelwagen

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    Did you know that the Chinese were the first people to invent matches? Matches were invented in 577 A.D. during the kingdom of Northern Ch’i. Early matches were made of sticks and pinewood. Chinese matches strike fire out of the top. The top is made of sulfur to help light fire. When it is struck it lights a fire. Matches were used for lighting fires, stoves, nightlights, fire crackers, and lamps so kids can sleep. But don’t forget every time we strike a match we are using a Chinese invention.
     
  6. Good point as for the rest of Tec and patent they steel them


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  7. The 'Army' / the military has been involved. 25K troops involved form Mar-Aug, reduced to 2k remained on staff to now. I spent lockdown working in Cardiff providing PPE for Wales. Not entirely certain what your comment ref careful what you wish for?
     
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  8. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I think it stems from certain governments from certain parties using military force against their own citizens in the past, usually in times of legitimate strikes.

    Indeed one of the earliest plans put in place was how armed forces personnel might be deployed to police civil disobedience due to Covid 19.

    What is being ignored is the many times the armed forces have been deployed to help society, such as the Covid testing, flood emergencies and many other instances when they have been utterly brilliant.

    Poignant in Wales, as it was the the anniversary of Aberfan yesterday, and the army stood shoulder to shoulder with miners as they pulled 116 dead schoolkids from the waste.
     
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  9. Noting of course that the Police have already spoken out against any idea to involve the army in direct policing roles and that the armed forces would in my view be very reluctant to adopt such a role.
     
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  10. Moons

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    To be honest, I think it was early days and the army was considered to shore up the police where they lost many officers due to the illness - same with manning prisons and I assume other blue light services.

    I don't believe the army, and probably the vast majority of police have any interest in forming some form of dystopian Winston Smith existence for their family and friends.
     
  11. There is no standing plan adopted for COVID 19 army as policing - there is for augmentation of the police. What does that mean? Army would be used for custody centers or transportation duties etc, to relive officers from desk jobs and get on to the streets as front facing. There is standing support plans to prison services and all other emergency services, this was used recently to augment ambulance drivers and critically the blood and organ service in wales.

    Military is extremely reluctant for anything other then augmentation/support due to the connotations of armed troops on the streets, act of parliament for that to be authorised. But you can put unarmed troops fairly rapidly, the difference is critical.
     
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  12. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Steal. ;)
    They're a bit like Trump, in yer face, but every company and country pushes at what they can get away with around the world.
     
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  13. Gingerbus

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    Saw this on particle propulsion with- and with-out a face mask:



    Quite amusing and demonstrates the point well.

    Also demonstrates the pros and cons of shaving neck hair to t-shirt collar level.

    And it reminds me of this:

     
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  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    People dare to sneeze in public? Burn them!
     
  15. I'm not suggesting that this is what Vallance et al are actually up to, just speaking hypothetically.

    But since you asked
    Getting people to stay at home to reduce transmission of this particular virus is only effective in delaying the spread; like battening the hatches during a storm. The storm's still raging outside and at some point in time , you'll need to open a vent. Maybe not the best analogy but since Covid 19 is 'out there', seems likely to mutate (variations have already been recorded), and very few people in the UK have contracted it as a percentage of the population (according to ONS figures) placing restrictions on people's freedoms will actually increase the clamour for a vaccine or other treatment, in order to 'return to normal'.

    You only have to look at share prices in pharma stock to see the true value of fear, that and gun sales in the US
     
  16. I yawned in the newsagent's today but I think I got away with it
     
  17. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    I have a pea shooter ..a spud gun and catapult that's enough i think to sort the mob out .
     
  18. unlike the dictators in the US, Brasil, Russia, UK, and most other countries you care to mention. Personally, I don't think any one country can be held accountable but it's fair to say that there a lot of people making political and financial capital out of the ensuing crisis and compounding the misery
     
  19. Would that be 'the complacent mob' who tut loudly in queues, say it's all a load of cobblers and stockpile toilet roll on the quiet?
     
  20. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    Oh the mob ...differing levels of aggro .
    Revenge is a strong emotion ...friction is the mother of pearl .It's a disapproving ,Disappointing ,disappearing world.
     

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