Is it like 1980s USSR where you are..,,

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Mattlad, Feb 20, 2023.

  1. Interesting you should say that, I honestly thought Brexit was all about a race to the bottom!

    Least it was under Boris and Liz, perhaps even more so with Liz and her attempt to create Singapore-on-Thames.
     
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  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Hadn't realised the race to the bottom was a Brexit thing - thanks. :thumbsup:
     
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  3. crossy2112

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    As I said it needed somebody to sort it out unfortunately the current government are lacking in that department.
     
  4. Seems some of our govt thought it was the EU that was preventing a low tax, small govt, zero safety net, NHS-less version of the UK being created. As it turns out, and this is the irony, it was the bankers that stopped Truss, she couldn't the low tax thing without first reducing the tax burden, aka welfare state, NHS etc.

    Cart before horse etc....
     
  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    We have all the same problems as the Romans did but less political murders. Amateurs in powerful positions with nothing but their political foibles to guide them.
     
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  6. Cor blimey ... how much fun are we having here :D
     
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  7. I wondered when you would turn up wilf:)
     
  8. My understanding was that they were concerned about the level of borrowing proposed and that there were no clear plans to repay it. Basically she was viewed as being a high risk borrower.
     
  9. Yes, that's the crux, but the aim was to create a low tax economy, however for one of those to operate successfully, you first need to reduce the size of tax burden aka the size of 'the state'.
     
  10. Not necessarily.

    Growing the economy is another way as is improving the exchange rate. You could keep the state the same size in absolute terms and still have a low tax economy, the trick is to get all the various factors working together. Having a good credit rating also helps, look at the spread between German and Italian bonds.
     
  11. Agreed, but given the UK economy stubbornly refuses to grow, or it's productivity increase, then reducing the denominator is all that is left.
     
  12. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Kale.

    Can't find it for love or money.
     
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  13. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    You can stick um up ye jacksy amigo ...hate tomatoes and cucumbers ...a lard sandwich is all a northener needs every day
     
  14. didn't want to disappoint ... my blue passport turned up in 17 days :)
     
  15. We’ve had no issues in our local supermarket either. We stayed at my sisters in Suffolk last weekend and they’d had no issues in their local Lidl. Last night we stayed with friends in Wiltshire - on the way home today we popped into Morrison’s on the outskirts of Bath - it too was fully stocked. They even had our favourite beer.

    Historically, press reporting a commodity shortage always becomes a self fulfilling story. Once fulfilled, the storyline then evolves into the usual politicised blame game. It helps sell newspapers to numpties. If the press hadn’t chosen to stir this up I doubt very much that anyone would have even noticed. Who has salad in the middle of winter?

    Having said that we did have tomatoes with our dinner tonight.
     
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  16. Day

    Day

    There are plenty of toms here, plenty of all veg....

    In my opinion 'bad weather affecting harvests' is rubbish.
     
  17. 24hr media needs Fodder.. ;)
     
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