How do you keep your van secure?

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by PeterW3035, May 14, 2013.

  1. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    awww isnt the tennis ball idea true? i got told by a locksmith how to get into cars easily without the key, you had to set the airbag off though....... is that a fib too?
     
  2. I think it's a fib. Car designers do think about these things.

    You can get into a Bay easily enough with a common wardrobe item...
     
  3. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    how can you get in using a shirt?
     
  4. For God's sake, don't tell everyone!
     
  5. It is true but I think it was on a few 90's car's? There are few silly ways that you can get into cars like that! ;)
     
  6. Always in the garage and never in the drive unless i am in ,battery always taken out once parked up and my neighbours are curtain twitchers,
    2 noisy dogs and cars in the drive as well.
     
  7. i pen mine in on the drive with my fiesta, they are going to have to move my car first, during the day when im at work i figure its probably ok as its broad day light and my drive is shared by other houses so they'd have to be very brave to try to take it.
     

  8. Years ago my mate had his lotus cortina nicked off his drive, they moved two cars that were parked in front of it ripped off the kook lock of the car and it was never seen again, all this was done underneath his bedroom window and never heard a thing,
    One good tip is to have gravel driveway or a load of geese,
    Steve,
     
  9. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    I heard this too I think It was cars that had the air type central looking, half a tennis ball and pump it hard over the lock and something to do with the air opened the lock.
     
  10. Well there is only so much you can do. If they really want to take it they will.
     
  11. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    It was with Ford cars of the late 80's early 90's with the small hole and skinny key.
     
  12. Mmm...all 'fun' aside, how do you remove registration numbers from window glass etching? Don't mention Jewellers Rouge, thats just iron oxide...rust!
     
  13. I've taken to leaving my buses in remote parts of the country, namely Scotland and the Fens. It means I worry less. ;)
     
  14. True dat! Mine is only 3rd party for the same reason, not even fire and theft :(

    I use a steering lock and concealed GPS tracker and hope for the best. I would where I live it would most likely be stolen to order and lifted onto the back of a low loader. If I had my own space rather than renting I would have thought a good solution would be to use a security anchor and chain like you get for motorbikes?

    Then I wonder assuming that the chain is resistant enough to being cut if the tea-leaves could just pull it away using something strong enough to snap the chain :thinking: some chains advertise a 120 ton tensile strength but I read somewhere a VW Touareg can theoretically pull over 200 ton! :eek:

    Then of course they would have to have an even stronger chain to attach it, which theoretically I should also be able to buy, hmmm.... I need to give this one more thought....
     
  15. sANDYbAY

    sANDYbAY On benefits-won't sponsor!

    Have you considered changing your van's registration so that it matches the windows.

    Oh and Jewellers Rouge is ok, it's The War, that we mustn't mention, although I think I got away with it that time.
     
  16. Being able to move a load is not the same as drawbar pull. You can move 200 tonnes with a relatively small drawbar pull. A 2 tonne car with around 70% tyre adhesion (dry) can only apply 1.4 tonnes of drawbar pull before the wheels slip. 120 tonnes tensile strength would need a much bigger vehicle than a Touareg, but hydraulic bolt cutters or a gas axe wouldn't take long to get through it.
     
  17. Ah ok drawbar pull, I didn't know the english term. Maybe a poor example with the Touareg, but apparently 200 is possible IF you add a lot of extra weight to avoid wheel slip. I am not saying this is likely but I am sure some idiot has tried it with a suitably hefty truck!

    I looked into motorbike locks and chains for my bike a while ago and it seems the 19mm almax chain with a squire SS65CS lock and Torc anchor is about the best you will get for a realistic price by the looks of it. I suppose you can get cordless hydraulic cutters big enough to go round a 19mm chain, but that would be a serious bit of kit to carry around :eek: And a gas axe or especially a grinder isn't very subtle if the bus is outside your bedroom window. Then again you never know, if they want it they probably will have it. I would hope the fact the there is that sort of chain anchoring it along with the threat of a tracker system as well would at least deter them.

    That and a CCTV camera pointed at your bus, that surely can't hurt either.
     
  18. It's possible to move 200 tonnes, but not to exert 200 tonnes of force, unless your 'hefty truck' weighs 300 tonnes.
     
  19. Not wanting to get drawn into off topic discussion, curiousity gets the better of me... I admit my physics is a bit rusty but I was going on the basis of:

    The force required to move a object would be coefficient of resistance multiplied by its mass. In our case of a 200 tonne plane being towed by the Touareg, we are looking at rolling resistance as the coefficient, which I googled was 12N/100Kg for decent tarmac. So 200,000x12/100 = 240 kN. According to wikipedia the average airport tug weighs 54 tonnes and has a drawbar pull of 334kN so seems in the right ballpark...

    Assuming by 120 tonne of force they mean 120 kN necessary to overcome the tensile strength. then that would be half the force of towing the plane, but maybe this is where I am going wrong?

    In any case, I only said some idiot might have tried it, not that it actually worked! ;)
     
  20. Oh yeah, simple maths. 120 tonnes is actually 1200 kN. I'll be quiet now :oops:
     

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