Edmondo arriva a casa nostra! Edmondo the doka comes to our house!

Discussion in 'Restorations' started by Poptop2, Jun 1, 2014.

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  1. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    My embarrassment is complete.

    I will persevere quietly.
     
    Poptop2, Jul 14, 2014
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  2. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Me. Obviously.

    On second thoughts?
     
    Poptop2, Jul 14, 2014
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  3. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    If you spent all weekend teaching, you might get the hang of it?
    @davidoft says you can practice on his bus. :)
     
    Zed, Jul 14, 2014
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  4. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

    no no no

    please persevere in public so we can ridicule, erm I mean guide you to a better weld :D
     
    davidoft, Jul 14, 2014
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  5. carlperkins001

    carlperkins001

    My welding was worse than that when I started!
    I've used 0.8mm wire for my entire resto, blows through panels more but it can be soldiered on with.
    What gas are you using? I've never used anything apart from argon co2 mix, but that works nicely :).
     
    carlperkins001, Jul 14, 2014
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  6. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

    try it this way


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    before the onslaught, I have no pictures after I made it prettier ;)
     
    davidoft, Jul 14, 2014
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  7. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I did do it quite well for while today, really tidy and was really chuffed, but then I lost it. Grr. That nice run has told I can do it though.
     
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    Poptop2, Jul 14, 2014
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  8. womball

    womball

    Definitely use 0.6 for sheet metal, well all welding on a bus as 0.8 is for thick stuff like what Paul said and make sure your tip matches.the only time I use a bigger tip is when welding upside down on really thick stuff as can help when the tip starts getting really hot stops it grabbing.
     
    womball, Jul 14, 2014
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  9. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    One of the few things in life that has always stumped me has been welding. I knew when I began this resto that I would struggle initially to get it right. I have always struggled with welding, so this time I am determined to have a good crack at it. Yes some of you may laugh or even feel I should stop, but I won't, not this time, I will carry on trying and pushing on because that is what I do when I set my mind to something, We can't all be brill at everything and I know how frustrating it must be for you guys that can weld, I mean it is a bit embarrassing to even look at the pictures, I can feel you cringe, but how do we learn anything without making mistakes or going over something a few times if need be, I am prepared to do that, I am prepared to put up pictures no matter how cringeworthy they are, because I want to do it, Those of you that know me will know I am not one to hide things and only put up my best efforts, I show it all warts and all. Unfortunately I am struggling to get the hang of neat welding, I always have, It has become a sort of nemesis, my goal or the last bit of restoration skill I want to learn. I am truly sorry if the work so far has disappointed you and it seems as if I just don't have it, But deep down I know I do, it is simply something that isn't quite clicking just yet, If I am to get better I can't just give up, I won't. You can help by carrying on with the great support and advice I have had thus far. I will get there, just be patient.

    I may have to go spend a few days with Davidoft to crack it, but at least I could nick half his crewcab bits while his back was turned. ;)
     
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    Poptop2, Jul 15, 2014
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  10. brothernumberone

    brothernumberone

    Good on you Malc! Keep going, everyone had to learn sometimes, even the smug ones;), they didn't pop out of their mums with a torch in their hand;)
     
    brothernumberone, Jul 15, 2014
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  11. CollyP

    CollyP Moderator

    Ouch!
     
    CollyP, Jul 15, 2014
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  12. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    It's more the stickyness than the neatness that concerns us. For whatever reason your welds look too cold.
    Take the plug welds. I know from when I was learning two things can result.
    1) The arc strikes the edge of the hole and the hole fills in looking nice but it's actually just lying on the sheet underneath and not welded to it at all.
    2) You aimed for the centre of the hole (the back piece), it started to melt and you fill until it joins to the edges of the circle (the top bit.

    They both look the same but No.1 is just fluff.
    No. 1 happens more easily the thicker the back piece is and the smaller the holes. If you tried to plug weld tiny holes as per Davidofts over the arch, a beginner will get result No.1, 9 times out of 10.
     
    Zed, Jul 15, 2014
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  13. Paul Weeding

    Paul Weeding

    I'm certainly not cringing dude!! You carry on and you'll crack it :cool:

    We all have to start somewhere :thumbsup:
     
    Paul Weeding, Jul 15, 2014
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  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I think for the benifit of the onlookers who don't know us, I should point out that most if not all the people offering criticism on this thread have actually been camping with Malc and feel we know him well enough to get straight to the point. If we didn't we'd be kinder - honest!
     
    Zed, Jul 15, 2014
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  15. womball

    womball

    I you get @davidoft to help you to weld neater,please take your welder so he can show your welder as every welder is different just an idea malc
     
    womball, Jul 15, 2014
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  16. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

    If it can get your sliding door to nearly shut I can get you nearly welding ;)
     
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    davidoft, Jul 15, 2014
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  17. MarcT512

    MarcT512

    Keep it up Malc! I'd like to learn to weld, and this is inspiring for me. :)
     
    MarcT512, Jul 15, 2014
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  18. cash074

    cash074

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    cash074, Jul 15, 2014
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    cash074

    cash074, Jul 15, 2014
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  20. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I couldn't lay a brick when I first started building and my father in law told me to stop. No advice. Just stop. The last house I restored a Georgian lodge made it into five upmarket building supply brochures because of the quality of build. I did that!

    I might not get that good at welding, tbh I probably don't want to, but slowly I will get there.
     
    Poptop2, Jul 15, 2014
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