Avoid a fire, everyone should read this

Good job pal.

 

100% not OK get it changed as soon as possible, I bet it tears off in your hand when you pull it

 

It has 6mm OD.

 

Me too.

 

Yeah I agree at least I know then that all pipes are new in 2014!

 

Thanks for the thread! Great shout! Really sorry to hear about your first van don't know what I would do if mine went up in smoke after three years hard yakka

 

Cheers pal, a little preventative work can stop the curse of fire.

 

Do you wear a hard hat and knee and elbow pads when you go outside your house for a walk too?

 

No

 

Spoke to Peter @VW Aircooled Works,,, That man knows his stuff!!! Top lad. Kit ordered.

 

Dead easy to fit and a nice feeling knowing it's there

 

Good news

 

Hi

The clips supplied are proper fuel clips, Peter does a lot of fuel hoses changes and these are the ones he prefers to use because they hold fast without digging in or chaffing the hose. So these are the one we supply with the biofuel / fit and forget fuel line kits.

Kind Regards
Colleen
VW Aircooled Works

 

We supply the R9 kits which are more for people on a budget. These tend to degrade faster in classic vehicle mainly due to the time they remain standing over the winter months. IF you drive your vehicle regularly (weekly all year round) the hose is good for sveral years. However the R9 hose still contain rubber which is what the Ethanol in petrol effects, by removing the natural oils causing the fuel hose to crack and deteriorate. However the R9 is still a lot better than the braided fuel hoses so it is an ok option for people on a budget that are happy to regulatory maintain there fuel lines

We also offer Biofuel hose kits for single / twin carb engines which we make can make up specifically for different set ups, std 6mm / 8mm or fuel engines. These will not in any way react to ethanol within petrol and are suitable for use in up-to 100% biofuel. We also try to encourage people to check they have the kunifer pipe going through the tinware as it is always quite shocking seeing vans with fuel hoses scrapping against metal tinware. We have been doing a lot of marketing trying to get the issue of fuel safety across to people both by our article in hayburner, and at the shows. With the changes in fuel composition that was brought in last year it makes knowledge of how long your fuel hose will last more important.

Kind Regards
Colleen
VW Aircooled Works.

 

Had a PM from a LB member about the issue of fuel clips or bands this is my reply to try and clarify based on our research and 2500 fittings:

Hi Barry,

thanks for the email and let me try and clarify and add to what Colleen has already said.

This are proper fuel fastenings or clips whatever you want to call them. The reason I use them is they have a narrow footprint and for that reason the pressure will be greater per cm3 than the wider jubilee bands you show. I get so many buses at the workshop that have fuel bands like this that you can literally turn with your finger.

A good fastening should mean that when sensibly tightened up it should not spin, this is all about the pressure. The ones I sell are much narrower and I have probably fitted over 2500 of these and find them the best in terms of quality, shelf life and grip. In conclusion the wider the band the more you have to tighten it and the greater the risk of stretching or stripping the threads.

Our fastenings are a bit more fiddly but these are the ones that we have found to actually do the job. Bands that spin simply are not doing the job.

Kind regards
Peter
VW Aircooled Works.

 

Good information Peter, perhaps you could also highlight the importance of using the correct diameter of hose with a smaller ID than the OD of the pipe it is fitted to. And that correctly sized hose clips should be used – there is nothing wrong with worm drive clips such as a Jubilee, hose manufacturers recommend them, but so often too a large clip is used which cannot evenly clamp the hose.

 

As above, don't try and use the commonly available so-called 6mm hose. It's really 6.4mm (1/4") and no matter how tight you do up the clips it will pull straight off any un-barbed connections e.g. the fuel tank outlet.

Also please resist the temptation to bodge to save money. Today I replaced a CB performance pump which are quite expensive. The pump itself looked almost new. The outlet is plastic. Someone (I'm afraid it was probably the garage that fitted it) had snapped it off presumably trying to get hose on it, then drilled it out and glued a piece of copper pipe into it instead. Needless to say it dripped even without the engine running.

 

Excellent to see you on the forum, keep spreading the word.

 

"Jap" (see other forums) did same as Chris with a splitty. Complete resto, monster engine, new interior, everything new. It burst into flames on his way home before he had the agreed valuation insurance in place.
Just goes to show it's not only old stuff that causes problems. Anything non-standard needs to be understood, not just slapped on. Typical is carbs that can't take the fuel pressure from a standard pump. Or the carb I changed this afternoon for a customer - the original was pouring petrol out from here, there and everywhere though it looked quite new. Also was wrong carb for the engine, dubious jetting as ran really weak so all in all easiest/cheapest to bin and replace.

 

Nightmare, luckily mine was in place but they wouldn't cover all the tools, kids gizmos and clothes because they weren't considered camping equipment. It was my daughters birthday 3 days before so she had all her new goodies with her, I even lost cash but again this was not covered. I recon I lost out about £4K in all. My insurance was mroe expensive afterwards because I'd made a claim.