Shootings in Paris

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Barry Haynes, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. Its not a *****ing competition.
     
  2. 240 thousand dead in Syria (war initiated and kept going using weapons supplied by Western states, including France) in 5 years.
    That's 78 deaths per day. not far off the other night in Paris per day, but for half a decade!
     
  3. I think it's important to remember that incidents like these are highly emotive, and illicit all manner of responses and opinions. We can all agree that the events in Paris and elsewhere are a tragedy. The ramifications are far reaching and the realm of suffering extends ever wider. Celebrate the fact that we are still (relatively) free to express our opinions and offer our support and condolences, such as they are, to the people who have been affected, directly and indirectly. They are no different to you or I, in Paris, Ankara, Beirut, Syria, Iraq, and elsewhere....just ordinary people, wanting a decent life...It's right and proper to question the motives behind such attacks, just as it's right to question those of our own governments. In the interests of peace, tolerance and understanding, I believe diologue is the only solution, however impalatable it may seem. There's a lot to unpick, but until people are made aware of the truth, on all sides, acts of war and vengence will continue unabated. History will testify to this....it's not my opinion.
     
  4. CollyP

    CollyP Moderator

    Too many opinions; not enough time.
    Too many edits.

    Firstly - a tragedy
    Secondly - ANOTHER tragedy
    Thirdly - a tragedy of a medium size in today's world
    Fourthly - I am not dismissing the tragedy in any way

    I listened, this evening, to a programme about France and its history and colonialism and that legacy that may have led to the Charlie Hebdot attacks last year. This programme was recorded for the Andrew Marr Start The Week show last Friday, in Paris, just a couple of hours before the attacks. They thought about pulling the show this week.
    The French appear to do more critical introspection than we do. It was a great listen.

    I'll stop now.
     
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  5. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Unfortunately Dicky. The terrorists seem to be backed by oil wealth commandeered by ISIS/DASH

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/b8234932-719b-11e5-ad6d-f4ed76f0900a.html#axzz3rhPuGbNd
     
  6. Its strange how a post about a terrorist attack turns into a dick swinging competition about who can google the best info on why it wasnt such a terrible thing in the bigger scheme of things and how its all ......... whos fault? Personally im still shocked and angry and i know there are others who will be watching who cant believe the clinicality of the approach of a bunch of people who would be the first to hide behind their own men of violence if it came to it. How desensitised are you. Yes, in good time i will see the bigger picture. But not now. Anyone got any good jokes about it they would like to share. That wont be far behind will it, or is that bad taste!
     
  7. Faust

    Faust Supporter

     
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  8. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator


    I would like to think I would despise my own men of violence like I despise all men of violence.
     
  9. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

    Its about time ALL arms manufacturing was stopped. You can't kill hundreds with a big stick.
     
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  10. who's going to be first!
     
  11. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    No one, as far as I can see, has shared any jokes onbhere about it. I don't imagine they will do in the future either.
     
  12. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    The Nazi's did with big sticks and iron bars on Russian pow's
     
  13. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

    That's always the biggest decision.
     
  14. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

    But started with guns to round them up and contain them.
     
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  15. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

    Does the world really need private arms manufacturing?
     
  16. I vote that you and Jez Corbyn go and negotiate with the terrorists if they come to London shooting things up as he doesn't want them shooting eithe
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34840708

    And in the interests of balance, the cuts to the police budgets mean there are less armed officers anyway.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34840708

    Looks like the UK are leading the way!
     
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  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Keep up, MI6 are getting £2billion and 1500 extra bods. Funny how this sort of cash can be found by merely clicking ye olde fingers?
    M16 - hmm - with my "trust the gov" hat on these are better than cops. I know for a fact their hands are less tied the nicities that keep normal police the right side of the law so bound to be more effective, but with my "civil liberties" hat on, exactly the opposite. And here we arrive at the age old "if you are doing nowt wrong you have nothing to fear" arguement.
     
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  19. Our civil liberties are down the pan already.
     
  20. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    You think? I think we ain't seen nothing yet...
     
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