Why is it when you're trying to sell a camper...

My guess is if it’s been for sale for 9 months and not sold it’s either to much money or the bus is worse than your opinion of it . MGBman has screwed the world market for these

 

Case and point, been trying to sell my bus for the last year and a bit, doubt I’ll get much more than £5500. I poured £9k into that thing and have accepted that I’m going to loose big time on it. What gets my goat is you see rolling rust buckets sell for plenty more than that grrrrr

 

1st rule of selling is the right product, to the right market/person at the right time.

Nice sunny day, field full of honkingly expensive vehicles, yours offers a gateway to the lifestyle. Set it up as a camper at a VW event or classic car event.

eBay, on a crappy Sunday evening is the wrong market at the wrong time.

 

First rule is right price

 

Come on down

 

If these rust buckets are selling then I’m sure you will sell yours, don’t be tempted to sell it for anything less than what you want
Bazza

 

If price is so relevant why do people pretty much never get their asking price, or as a buyer, pay the asking price?

Wildly over or under priced is obviously not going to help, I agree with that, but ballpark pricing is an introduction and not much else.

Presentation and timing are hugely relevant....why do campers sell for more in warmer weather....why do pictures of a camper being used on a campsite or plainly on holiday garner far more interest than ones of the same vehicle simply plonked on a drive?

I think I'm more circumspect about pricing of campers due to such an unsettled market...prices are all over the place, you being in the trade are far more informed than those of us not in the trade.

 

I would think that with the uncertain short term outlook with jobs, recession looming here and abroad and the omnishambles that is British politics presently, folks are deferring blowing a load of cash on anything to include the folly that is old VW campers.

You’re probably trying to push water uphill at the mo.

 

Until the ongoing issue of governance is sorted then people will continue to use it as a reason not to spend, both on an individual and company level. I wish people would stop talking about a recession ... otherwise we will find we talk ourselves into one.

 

But that is what happens - it’s about confidence.

 

Trying to get the money back spent is impossible,
You have to forget that and sell it for a fair sensible price.
There’s lots for sale to a decreasing amount of punters let alone all the T5s for sale to tempt them away .

 

Instead of bad mouthing each other on here over this subject, lets all grow up and accept that vehicle prices are market driven and prices do go up and down over time. If someone has bought on a rising market and now the market has gone down, that's the way it is. The current economic climate is tough for ordinary folks and most are struggling just to live.

 

My keep mentioning you ruining the VW market is 100% meant in jest ( but please don’t comment on the porsche 914 or housing market)

 

Attitudes change towards classics ...they go through phases . I haven't watched the market like you have and if you say the trend is easing off a little , there are reasons for it particularly they way the country stands at the moment and i am sure it will return along with the growing popularity of the T25 as it is a cheaper buy .

But there is a generation who can only remember the camping days in there childhood in a T25 .
Look at the way Malc ..as to the popularity of the commercial vehicle scene has gone .
You see Volvo F 86 's S 80's ERF B series all becoming popular now ...instead of old dennis , Thornicroft Maudsley's .

But i think the very younger generation will possibly have no interest in classics what so ever due to pollution concerns .
Look what they are doing now striking at schools ffs .

Can you imagine there faces if i struck up a Gardner 180 on a cold morning outside there house ...i'd get stoned to death .
Maybe we will eventually be made to change to electric power ...wouldn't bother me, at least we will still have the bus .

After all loads are changing too subaru ..so the trend to modernisation is set in motion already .

 

The game we play in the uk is put up
a price that you would really like but know that’s not what you want, the buyer plays the same game and offers twice the difference, they then settle in the middle, but I’ve been watching the prices and they’ve risen consistently until around 2 years ago, all the people buying on the rising market could buy a van run it a couple of years, maintain it and still make a profit, knowing that there’s not the same consideration for purchase price as on a less stable market, now they need to consider if they can buy a camper and lose a great deal of money and unlike the new car market it’s not a predictable amount of loss, makes people unsure and more considered, that leads to exploring the market and finding a T5 is less money and modern etc. I can guarantee you prices are way way down, but more than that sales are too, I think a lot of it is drive by the traders, if they buy a rough van for £8k tart it up and put it up for £15k and sell they will buy all the stock they can, when this stops happening the cheaper stuff hangs around and just drops in value because there’s lots of choice. An indicator of traders seeing the market go south is morcambe and wise going under, they rode the wave but over committed, let the potential profit drive them without proper consideration of the market or costs, they still jumped off it though

 

Am thinking of buying a 914. Anyone know what the going rate is? Anyone @mgbman ?

 

Anyone who has a limited budget , looks around before they buy , they actually read stuff too , made easier by the internet and specialised sites etc I rest my case . Gone are the days where ladies with large front ends are able to blind an unaware buyer too ,people learn by others mistakes n that .

 

I love the way (and btw nothing to do with this thread) people say it (van) owes me £10k and I’m not selling it for any less. They seem to forget the £2-3k they have saved over a year just in the amount of breaks they’ve had, holidays been on. Etc.

Every year I must save that on family holidays. Example, last May, holiday spend in a van £1k for a week, went away recently for a week and that was just over £2.5K. That’s £1,500 difference. I went on 4 weeks holiday last year and countless mini breaks. Works out on that basis I’ve saved at least £6K.

Seems I owe my van a lot more than it owes me, we’ve had countless holidays, met lots of people and countless adventures.

May the fun continue.