Gaskets for auto box

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Zed, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. I can sort you the info for a late box, as it has to be set up right... I'll email a mate of mine and get him to scan the info in for me :)
     
  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I'm not going to set it up (I hope). The selector is already to cock, to find N, you have to push it too far forward, I'll try and improve that while I'm about it.
    You're making me think maybe I should leave it in situ and clean it there, but it won't make a very good job of it. :(
    Maybe drop the engine only...
    I have a week or two to ponder as other jobs to complete first.
     
  3. taking an auto box out is a mission :eek:
     
  4. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    So it looks at a glance. I erring towards leaving it there. With the engine out of the way it'll be easier to clean up the mess. :)
     
  5. Do you know how to undo the torque converter from the drive plate?
     
  6. Betty the Bay

    Betty the Bay Supporter

    Zed asked about the delay in getting motion when 1st starting up....mine does the same although it runs great and I had it checked over and a few leaks sorted by a guy who used to run a local Auto Transmission repair business, who said all was well.......so is the delay normal ?
     
  7. Auto delays are down to a few things...

    Oil level - this is checked with the engine running, and the box in neutral... This then pumps the oil round the box so it gives you the correct sump level!!

    Old oil - if the oil isn't a bright cherryade red, then it likely as not is worn out and needs replacing.

    Sticky valves due to old oil... sometimes you'll need to do a couple of changes to de-varnish the valves in the box

    Mucky filter restricting oil flow

    Worn oil pump, so low pressure at idle

    That is pretty much it... old oil or correct sump level are generally the main ones to check!! :thumbsup:
     
  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Yes. :)
     
  9. Excellent :D
     
  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    It's a nice colour, but the level is probably low judging from the amount splattered on the outside and dripping off everything. It's such a bodge-in you have to take off the air filter to get at the dip stick and then run it of course. :rolleyes: Was supposed to be setting the timing not rebuilding the whole flippin thing. I have other jobs already delayed and squeezed this one in because it looked a quikkie. I'll never learn!
     
  11. Setting the selector is pretty easy - there's a pinch bolt under the front belly pan to adjust the rod length. I have the 010 transmission troubleshooting guide if you need it. Over 1 MB so too big to post here in one go but it might break down.
     
  12. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Cheers for that Andy. It's not really troubled, just leaking. It drives beautifully and I'm focussed on trying not to run the gentleman up a big bill. I'll remove the engine, clean up the outside, replace the seals, adjust the the rod (guessed that would be simple fine tuning -it's not far out, just annoying - it's a little too short as it is) and refill with fresh oils. Then he can go on his hols (and still afford to hopefully!).
    In general terms if someone comes in expecting a £50 bill and gets one for £5k it's not good! I could find that amount of work on many buses that pass through, but while the stuff might technically need doing, as long as not doing it won't cause breakdown, be unsafe or a bigger bill down the line I let it lie and warn/discuss. At the end of the day it's not my job to rennovate a van that comes in for a service... :)
     
  13. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Argh... had written out lots, went to find some photo's all and chat gone....

    Here are some photo's of my box - not great quality ImageUploadedByTapatalk1367178801.517691.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1367178816.485447.jpg

    I think the cable has something to do with the kickdown, though I think it uses air to change the gears etc

    I'll write some more in a moment
     
  14. 2nd pic has the vac can... so the cable does the throttle, the vac loading on the engine does the gear change :)
     
  15. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    So mine is an original auto box and once in drive there is not delay or none that I have noticed until it wants to drive off..

    Mine currently has a leak and is with a auto specialist, Stephens engineering in ware, Hertfordshire, company run by a father and son and they have around 6 mechanics I'd guess. They seem very genuine people and the dad remembers working on the auto boxes back in the day..

    The leak seems to be the torque converter seal and this company repair/renew the converter with their own tooling, I guess they must have a whole ton of seals and as they seem very knowledgable it might be worth giving them a call to find out which ones you may need. The garage was recommend by someone on the herts VW club forum.

    Once driving along, I think the drive of the auto box is absolutely lovely, I think it changes gear even better than some modern day autos, which just seem to over rev.
     
  16. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Indeed that's what I guessed, I also presume mine is the later box
     
  17. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    I also think that the vac hose is used for both braking and gearbox - I'm running single carb
     
  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The delay is just for say 5 seconds when you first start up the engine. Quite amusing really - no use for a getaway car. After that it's fine and smooth, no clunking.
     
  19. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Thought the vac ones were the early ones?
     
  20. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Maybe, mines a 74.

    I certainly have no 5 second delay, as I said, hardly noticeable if any, I actually don't think there is any delay.
     

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