what a load of nonsense

Pre Brexit : rules we dont like but we at least could vote as a member of the EU.
Post Brexit : even more rules we dont like but we can do nothing about them.
We all had a vote and we used it. You could see all this coming a mile off.
Welcome to reality .. take back control of what ? There are solutions but Brexiteers wont like it.

I expect in the next 10 years a party will be elected to power in the UK with a mandate to realign with the EU, not necessarily rejoin but reduce these problems.

But I also expect expats to end up as landless refugees on the way unless they take up residency status in the EU, losing GB benefits..

 

As the late bays resident Brexiteer and forum hate figure. I would just like to point out that this shouldn’t really have come as any great surprise to ex pats, who’ve been living happily in Spain whilst their health was ok but popping back to use the NHS when it suited them. There’s millions of Eastern Europeans who had to weigh up if they wanted to stay in the UK and take up the offer of residency here, or go somewhere else. They seem to have managed it ok. I’m sure if these ex pats wanted to they could have taken up the same offer en Espania. My guess is they probably all got a bit used to having their cake and eating it and didn’t believe they’d need to make a choice.

with regards to driving a uk registered vehicle permanently in Europe. If the Spanish rules require you to have a Spanish license plate and driving license then that’s what they should do. Typically English to decide someone else’s rules don’t apply cos they don’t suit me. We wouldn’t like it if people came to the uk and just decided what laws should apply to them.

Remoaners will always find a way to blame Brexit for everything, when actually the apocalyptic predictions never happened did they? We didn’t get mass unemployment. Our economy didn’t collapse. We weren’t all forced to eat the family dog. World war three didn’t break out in Northern Ireland. The supply of medicines didn’t dry up. There wasn’t a run on our banks. The worlds financial institutions didn’t abandon the city of London. Etc etc etc.

After forty years of being increasingly dragged into and organisation we didn’t vote for, there was always going to be a period of adjustment to things. This is it. Get over it.

 

The UK and EU are going through big and rapid changes due to a lot happening in a short time. While we may moan about our lot, The EU is suffering as much as or worse than us and old tensions are rising to the surface as the EU goes through big changes politically and economically and true to type France keeps taking a swipe at us at every opportunity while the situation in France is getting bad. Threatening to cut off our electricity we buy from them and hampering lorry movements at the ports is not good for future relations and why are they obsessed with fishing, its a small issue in the big picture and will be resolved through negotiation.

 

I agree with a lot of your post, but the highlighted sentences suggest that you haven't been out of your house since we exited....

 

We lived and worked as expats in New Zealand on an 8 year visa and in Oman on a 2 year extended for another year visa. The visas had rules attached and we were working at the time rather than retired.

Its all about sticking to the rules whatever they are and not taking the mickey as local folks understandably won't like it.

Maybe a few of the expats in Spain leaving, would free up properties for local people. That would be a good thing.

 

Sorry if I missed it somewhere up there.. but its not illegal to have a GB sticker / sign/ numberplate in Europe from anything I've seen. no need to cover hide etc unless you think you'll get picked on more

All that's changed is the need to also display a UK sticker too prominently on the rear just like the GB one you used to

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Why is it? When we talk about British moving to live and work abroad, we call them British expats? But when EU folk come to work and live in the UK, we call them EU immigrants?

 

@F_Pantos , Yep, good point. They have the same meaning iirc, but a very different inflection!
Ex pat seems somehow cosy and law abiding where immigrant too often has the word illegal preceding it and seems somewhat less permanent or welcome!

 

Can you imagine the reverse - Spanish pensioners retiring here, eating paella and drinking sangria in their own Spanish bars, shopping in their own bodegas, watching bull-fighting on TV and parking their Seats on double yellow lines with a dodgy Blue Badge in the windscreen.......

 

Extranjeros (literally translated as foreigners) which includes any nationality that is non Spanish but living and/or working in Spain.

The far more pejorative terms are usually reserved for when the Catalans talk about the Castillians or Andalucians and visa versa, for example.

 

Hadn't heard that one, it literally translates as "tourist", doesn't it?

The pejorative term that used to be used was "giddy", might also be "giddie" or "Los Giddies", but that was aimed at the tourists, or what we call holiday makers, not the long term "residents".

I wonder if the two terms have become conflated, in some way?

 

Sort of sounds like gee ree

 

Could it be possibly the same thing but in Catalan/Mallorqui?

 

Lol, Camposol, an urbanisation 15 clicks or so from where we used to live in Puerto de Mazarron was know by the locals as el gueto.

We re-registered both the beetle and our old '74 Westy and I've still got my old NIE card in my wallet!
Lots didn't bother, not even to learn a few basic phrases by way of respect, expecting hospitality and a potentially more relaxed way of life as some form of God given right.

 

Father in law and his wife have a place out in one of these urbanisations in Southern Spain. They socialise with other English and basically do Englishy things but with better weather. Minimal effort made to learn the lingo past a few key phrases. Pretty sad really