Theresa May loses televised debate shocker

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SweeneyTodd, May 29, 2017.

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  1. PIE

    PIE

    I fought in the Falklands,it was a grim business but the people down their were more British than British people, Im not sure we have had a lot of minerals from down there in the last 30 odd yrs since.
     
    PIE, May 30, 2017
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  2. crossy2112

    crossy2112 Supporter

    Seem to recall at the time the rights were owned by Tarmac
     
    crossy2112, May 30, 2017
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  3. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    It's a long way fer goo driving a an eight wheeler ur tarmac from Stanley to London .;)
     
    Faust, May 30, 2017
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  4. Pickles

    Pickles

    I think you are a bit confused. The justification in the first was an invasion of British territory by the Argentinian armed forces. In the second Blair lied about the existence of weapons of mass destruction to justify his crusade, of course as history has shown Blair was later found out to have made it all up.
     
    Pickles, May 30, 2017
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  5. Spacecowboyuk

    Spacecowboyuk

    It took a while but finally oil was mentioned in a TLB thread. Phew!:)

    In all seriousness I'm enjoying the debate. As you were.
     
    Spacecowboyuk, May 30, 2017
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  6. Pickles

    Pickles

    This is all @Barry Haynes fault for mentioning the Falklands.
     
    Pickles, May 30, 2017
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  7. crossy2112

    crossy2112 Supporter

    No confusion defence of British colony justified defence of a commercial interest ?
     
    crossy2112, May 31, 2017
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  8. Sick Boy

    Sick Boy

    For me it's dead simple, if you want a peaceful, respectful and just society vote Labour.
     
    Sick Boy, May 31, 2017
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  9. rustbucket

    rustbucket

    For me it's dead simple, if you want a wrecked economy, massive tax hike, uncontrolled immigration and a poor brexit deal vote labour.
     
    rustbucket, May 31, 2017
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  10. Low n slow

    Low n slow

    But which oil? o_O
     
    Low n slow, May 31, 2017
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  11. rustbucket

    rustbucket

    I think we need to remember how great it is that we live in a country where we can all voice our different opinions on politics to the each other, without fear of disappearing or getting hung from a lamppost. Particularly after the events in Manchester and in Kabul overnight. It's easy to get wound up about our election but maybe take a pause to think about how great this nation is, whether you vote red blue yellow green purple orange or L90d.
     
    rustbucket, May 31, 2017
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  12. Pedro del monkeybike

    Pedro del monkeybike

    Having voted in elections before
    The Utopia offered by any party
    Lasts about a Week
    Then whoever gets in sifts through their manifesto to see what they can get away with not implementing without us noticing :)
     
    Pedro del monkeybike, May 31, 2017
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  13. Louey

    Louey Moderator

    The economy has been wrecked by boom bust from greed of financial markets that were given a freerer reign by Thatcher. The current incumbents have put the country into more debt, yet slashed our public services and basic amenities.

    The tax rises are for the richest/wealthiest out there.

    You can't blame labour for Brexit and it's farcicle handling - Cameron didn't want it but let us vote on it then buggered off after his cronies gave false promises.

    As for immigration? Uncontrolled? Just think was the Home Secretary in recent years that kept promising figures and never met them?

    Time for a new colour at #10 my vote is is with Jeremy

    Sent from my PLK-L01 using Tapatalk
     
    Louey, May 31, 2017
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  14. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Land Tax anyone?
     
    Baysearcher, May 31, 2017
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  15. Dicky

    Dicky

    well interestingly the size of your garden will affect your council tax under labour (I don't know that, did Boris make it up?)
     
    Dicky, May 31, 2017
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  16. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    It doesn't sound like its nailed on, but the proposals seem to mean that council tax bills will rocket?
     
    Baysearcher, May 31, 2017
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  17. Dicky

    Dicky

    A Labour spokesman said: "This is desperate nonsense from the Tories. Labour has no such plans."
     
    Dicky, May 31, 2017
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  18. Dicky

    Dicky

    it may also be "false news"
     
    Dicky, May 31, 2017
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  19. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    “We will initiate a review into reforming council tax and business rates and consider new options such as a land value tax, to ensure local government has sustainable funding for the long term.” (p86)
     
    Baysearcher, May 31, 2017
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  20. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    This is from a site that says its truly independent (which I doubt): http://evolvepolitics.com/right-wing-press-lying-labours-land-value-tax-heres-truth/

    It depends on the value of your property, and the amount of properties you own.

    The rate for people owning just one residential property would be set at around 0.85% of the value of the property. This would mean that someone owning a house worth £110,000 would pay just £935 per year in Land Value Tax – almost certainly a reduction on their current council tax bill.

    The higher the value of your property, the higher your land value tax bill will be. But as long as you only own and reside in one property, you will only be required to pay the standard rate of 0.85%.

    How many houses are worth less than £110k? To me, it sounds like the majority would have far higher bills compared to council tax?
     
    Baysearcher, May 31, 2017
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