Speculation over cladding

There has been much speculation over the cause and rapid spread of the fire in Grenfell tower.If it turns out that the cladding fitted in a recent refurb is the cause of the rapid acceleration of fire spread,it should be noted that in the US its use has been banned for use on buildings over 40 Ft due its lack of fire resistance.The company that make the cladding also make two alternatives that are fire resistant at a small extra cost.
Are we looking at a money saving exercise ?

 

It looks as if we are, there was a fella yesterday showing how the fire could of spread, it was frightening

 

I think the title says it all, it woukd be better to wait for the fire experts to make a judgement, I noticed on the news that there is a lot of anger at the scene.

 

Every new build and refurbishment in our town is cladded


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yes only speculation,but I watched on TV. With the rest of the country as fire swept up the building.something's wrong

 

I work in construction . I specify things. This is the conversation I have
Me. I want to use this stuff

QS . client But this other stuff costs less

But this stuff last longer , is more fire resistant, more durable, looks nicer, etc

QS. .client. But this other stuff costs less

Repeated until they decide between them to get the cheaper option.

 

There's also speculation that there was a gap between the wall and cladding creating a 'chimney effect'.

I have no doubt in my mind the cladding is the biggest cause.

 

You'd like to think people will be jailed. I hope they do.

I see the media circus has already started the witch hunt.

 

I wondered about this as well. I heard one report that said the gas supply was routed through the stair wells? I don't do commercial gas but I doesn't sound right to me.

Even when siting a domestic meter it's not supposed to be under the stairs if the building is over a certain height if the stair way is the only means of escape.

 

I imagine it is, joints burn hotter than normal cigarettes don't they?

 

Yes you are 100%correct , why no fire stops we ask? Answer building regulations used to stipulate their incorporation in this type of situation however it was decided that the likelihood of a fire of this type was virtually non existent so the regulations were changed and as a consequence no fire stops needed, which would have compartmentalised the fire to an extent hopefully slowing its spread down to enable the fire to be contained.
Question who changed the regulations and on who's advice ?
They are the ones now worrying !!
How long before the original regulations are reinstated and will it be made retrospective ?

 

Best to wait for the enquiry. I don't think speculation serves any purpose.

 

This

 

Agreed let's wait for the enquiry