Oh great TLB advise me/pick my reasoning.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rickyrooo1, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Bit like putting modern interiors in really.....
     
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  2. Bit like using a bus for anything but as a micro bus or panel van then!

    And as Vw never made a campervan it's a bit out of comparison. Theres a big difference between changing to a Subaru engine and putting a new interior in.

    And it's not modern as newly converted in some of our cases.
     
  3. We are in the process of putting a mk2 golf gti into our doka using the T25 diesel bell housing, We went down this route so we could go back if we wanted to. But in the longer term we have the option of all the VAG 4 cylinder engines from a 1 litre polo :eek: to a 1.8 20v turbo:D and also all the 4 pot diesels:thumbsup:

    Rick If i was you i would look at what options you will have if the conversion you go for goes pop, thats why we stayed VAG as we know what will fit :thumbsup:
     
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  4. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Erm no. Nothing like that at all.
    They never made a campervan, but then at the time they didn't make water-cooled vans either.
    They do now though, because contrary to what some believe the world has moved on and improved, just like engine technology.
     
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  5. They're was watercooled engines out then just volkswagen didn't make them so by saying technology has moved on is right in a way but like I first said if you want a camper with a modern engine buy a modern van. It's not like vw's have the best safety features or anything.
    Why change one of the key features that make this classic car iconic. You can always hear one coming a mile away. One of the reasons most people love these vehicles.
    It'd be like taking the engine out of a Ferrari and sticking a mini clubman in there!
     
  6. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Listen to yourself......
    1) Read what I wrote. I said VW didn't make water cooled vans at the time, not water cooled didn't exist.
    2) Because it's a massive improvement.
    3) Clearly not.
    4) Not to me or many others it wouldn't.

    As I said earlier; someone who makes a
    living out of modernising old vans, saying modernising old vans is in some way a bad thing, should probably take a long hard look at themselves.
     
  7. How is it a massive improvement?

    I build interiors for a living because I love these busses, the sound the look the way they drive. As I said earlier VW didn't factory fit an interior till 2005 so the way you say modernise how can it when there was nothing in there in the first place, yes original interiors and where needed we'll repair or replace an original to near as damn it original the same way as someone would replace Engine. But if there's nothing there to start with what choice have they got. Original interiors are hard to get, usually chipped. All I'm doing is offering the service like most engine builders giving them up grades if they wish.

    So why do I need to take a long hard look in the mirror,.
     
  8. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Because your answer to me is hypocritical.
    At the end of the day, everyone's bus is their own, it's up to them what they do with them.
    To me, swapping my engine out was a massive improvement.
    I'm not overly bothered what your opinion of my choice is.
     
  9. Well no it's not, as interiors were never fitted in to the vans by VW but aircooled engines were.
    Your argument comparing me to modernising something that wasn't there in the first place to something that was, although in your eyes not as modern. Are completely different. I could understand if;
    1) you could no longer get parts that would then make your engine have a short shelf life
    2) exact reproductions were being made of what was originally fitted.

    And until your last post I was unaware of your engine choice.
     
  10. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    So you've got nothing in your van that isn't original or an exact copy?
    Modern brakes?
    Modern stereo (amp, big speakers etc)?
    Etc etc
    Fair play if you haven't, 99% of people have though.

    At the end of the day, if air-cooled was better than water-cooled, they'd still be widely used. They're not.
     
  11. Still running Drums
    Reproducing the original interior
    Not looked at stereo yet!!

    But there's upgrades and upgrades I think a stereo upgrade is on the same par as say putting twin carbs on.

    The Engine is like hacking the front of and sticking a split front on, Yes I know people do it but its not my cup of tea.

    The aircooled engine is and was very reliable, Several people I know have ran them for years with no problems that you wouldn't get from any other car. The key point is maintaining them correctly. Most trauma comes when people start going bigger and bigger.

    I suppose it comes to how you look at your bus whether it be as a classic car or a campervan. Everyone mods them but its where the line is to how far to go. I suppose with everything you do there will be criticism.
     
  12. Ultimately - who gives a Marmite?

    If you want original , stay stock.

    If you don't, don't.

    Do what you like.

    VWs have been modded and customised for decades.
     
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  13. They are your buses, do what you want with them, whatever you do, there will always be someone that doesn't agree, thats a fact of live in many things!

    Just enjoy them how you feel and works best for you! :)
     
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  14. Ask @poptop2 how much notice he gets of the arrival of my scooby-powered bus at his house. :D A flat 4 always sounds like a flat 4, whatever cools it.
     
  15. I think @Mattlad has it right - do what you think is right and dont worry about what other think. Its not like these things are super-rare, plus it could always be returned to stock at some point in the future if required.

    Just out of interest.. would a scooby or diesel lump add extra weight in the rear?

    I've modded a lot of cars in the past and if i've learned anything you have to consider the vehicle as a whole - ie don't give it more power unless you make it handle/corner/stop better too other wise your investment is wasted. If you go for something more powerful you might also end up spending on other areas too? Just a thought..

    If i was in your position i'd start buying up "spares", say a manual box first.. get it rebuilt at some point and have it ready. If you have a part ready to swap in it pretty much guarantees the original will never fail*.

    * not scientifically proven btw! :)
     
  16. wouldnt mind having a look at that :)
     
  17. Subaru engine is definitely heavier than a Type 1.
     
  18. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I don't consider myself a purist by any stretch of the imagination and I do like the scooby lump, in fact I quite fancy a tin top with a scooby and a home designed interior at some point, but I do like the original lump, I love the tinny sound, I like the simplicity and I like to see an original lump detailed and fitted in a tidy engine bay, It just looks so good, It's also a bonus when they run well without oil leaks etc. They just look so right. No matter what we do to the scooby or other engines that people fit in their aircooled bays - they just don't look right. nice but not quite right imo.

    Good luck to anyone who makes their van suit themselves, that is the beauty of owning one of these vans . :thumbsup:
     
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  19. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    My neighbours ask me who the yob in the noisy van is, I tell them he's a university Dr lecturer and they say-- ' He's a university lecturer with a noisy old engine!' ;)
     
  20. Fixed that for you. ;)
     
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