Lite Steer

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Marty SmartyCat, Sep 22, 2023.

  1. docjohn

    docjohn Supporter

    OK, I've had a chat with Neil, and an email exchange, this morning. To clarify, the postage cost is now £60+VAT for everyone due to a £20 increase in insurance to improve the cover as a result of a recent loss in transit.
    Neil has made a decent offer to us of £1000 including VAT and carriage for the Late Bay kit, and £1030 for the Early, if we can get 5 orders.
    If you want to take this up, I suggest you send me a PM with your name and which kit you want. If we get five takers, I'll collect more details and pass them on to Neil, with your permission, and we can go from there.
    Mods, if you want to move this to a new thread in another section, please do so.

    PS. The carriage cost for the UK.
     
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  2. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    So how does it work? Is it powered or just gear ratio?
     
  3. An electric motor on the column, just like your Golf (or any other modern car).
     
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  4. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

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  6. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    But a cheaper alternative if you’re not flush and don’t mind fettling. More importantly it roughly explains the process and there are people on here more than capable of making that!
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Sure and I could too but it looks like an unavoidable bodge up to fit that particular kit. No automatic speed control, welds and ugly brackets (not included).
    My van is rather neat and tidy and I don't want to let that standard slip nor do I want to be continually manually adjusting it. The more I think about it the more the Litesteer kit seems worth the extra in terms of ease of fitting, tidiness and auto speed control.
    I take your point that you could save money this way but...
     
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  8. Dubs

    Dubs Sponsor supporter extraordinaire

    You can pick up Corsa pas columns for under a £100 if your going to DIY it, so all your getting for the extra £200 in that eBay kit is some wire and connectors, and that naf power control switch. All well and good if you have the skills, but it’s no comparison to the ready made kit from lite steer.


    Each to their own and all that. Some folk think nothing of spending a grand on fitting blingy wheels, that make their van handle worse..
     
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  9. Dubs

    Dubs Sponsor supporter extraordinaire

    If lite steer are reading this, please forward my payment for my influencer services poste haste :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I made one very similar for my Westy but didn’t use it in the end as I swapped the van for the LT. I sold it on very easily. I was going to do an how to but lost the pictures to the photobucket fiasco. I think it was a corsa motor and control unit and the knuckle connectors were machined by a mate. Tbh it was simple and would have cost about £100 all in including a few electrical items and brackets.
     
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  11. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I paid £35 for the corsa psa, machining £30, a few bits of steel for stabilising it and some power control switches. It’s a very simple thing and tbh that’s basically what litesteer started out doing. They have the money to posh em up a bit now and good luck to them, I was content with what I did im not fussy that it would have looked like that because 12 years ago there wasn’t a great deal of option. :)
     
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  12. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Average typical van owners have changed over those 12 years haven't they? Even if they are the same people they're generally better off.
    Well, I am and have changed too. I have the time to go the cheap Corsa route or perhaps a slightly smarter version of the ebay kit but... I just can't be bothered. lol
    Meanwhile I'm self hacking the narrowboat, I pick my wars these days instead of doing every single thing myself. I'm looking forward to a morning fitting a smart looking kit that someone else has designed and seemingly keeps improving rather than a week farting about designing it mechanically and probably tearing my hair out trying to work out the speed sensor bit. I probably wouldn't bother at all if that was my only option. I knackered my shoulder a couple of weeks ago and couldn't manoeuvre the van for a week and that's what's nudged me in this direction. Hunching under the dash trial fitting and adjusting things has lost it's appeal too, my back doesn't like that.
     
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  13. Poptop2

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    I get the need for it I really do. When I got my first van in 78 I never even thought about power steering or my first articulated lorry a few years later but god I’m glad I have it now!
     
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  14. with the diy corsa motor don't you have to weld the column to get it fitted? .. where the LS version is a new entire replacement column- seems like good value for money tbh

    also i wouldn't want to have to turn a resistor up and down everytime i wanted assistance.
     
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  15. Advancing years, Steve ;)...

    I'd be wary of something like the Corsa bodge up. The motor in electric PAS is quite capable of ripping the steering wheel out of your hands at 70mph if the controller goes a bit barmy. I'm not sure the "my mate down the pub stuck something up the CAN bus port and it seems to work" would be quite what I'd want. Hopefully LiteSteer are a bit more diligent. I'd be willing to pay a few bob more not to have my bus somersault over the barrier on the M3...
     
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  16. Poptop2

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    You only set it once to suit what amount of assistance you are comfortable with!
     
  17. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Not really. You want assistance at low speed only so you'd have to set it every time you changed from low to high speed and from high to low. Power assistance at high speed is freakin dangerous.
     
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  18. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    You don’t need it at high speed that’s why they’re controlled by the ecu in modern cars so as they turn off at certain speeds!
     
  19. Marty SmartyCat

    Marty SmartyCat Supporter

    Any thing done to a Bay could always be done differently - it just depends on how much time and effort you want to spend doing it. For example, I could have machined my own pistons, barrels and heads vs. buying ready made.
     
  20. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I know that, it's exactly why the ebay adjust with a knob one would be half-arsed. You're the one who said you would adjust it once then leave it. ;)
     
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