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Zedds, I started with that one but it didn't go down well

 

Yeah, but do you want the North to be like the South? Have you been there?

 

I meant links to Lancashire.

Oh! wait same applies

 

Speaking of the Olympics.
When it was ‘Manchester’ or ‘Birmingham’ nobody gave a crap. As soon as London was on the table all of a sudden we had ‘Olympic fever’.
Things are very disproportionately in favour of London, as if that’s the only place that matters and it makes me sick. I still won’t visit London unless I have to, and I’ve turned down quite a few well paid jobs that would have necessitated me moving there.

 

Wales have just contributed £5.6 BILLION pounds to HS2 - which doesn't come within 50 miles of Wales. Figure that one out.

 

One of Bozo' mates may have needed a well earned holiday.

 

Probably to keep it OUT of Wales

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We could never afford to live in that London on our wages. How anyone can afford it is beyond me, but hey, they do somehow. But London is a great place to visit as a tourist. We stayed in the YHA off Oxford St the year before last, had a great time. But I couldn’t and wouldn’t live there

 

I think you've hit it on the head - people don't speak Welsh just so they can slag the English - but there seems to be this conviction that that is the sole reason why people speak it.

So my only reason for speaking a language thousands of years old, the only reason it exists is to that I can slag an English person off?

English snowflakes.

I prefer to slag someone off so that they can understand me, much better for all concerned.

On a serious note - as in previous email - people don't like outsiders on their turf, the Welsh are no different in that regard. If you visited Poland - you'd think nothing if they spoke Polish, you'd have no control on what they said, anymore than they would you.

People have an issue with it because they believe the Welsh should be and act as part of England. That is the crux of the issue.

 

As an aside , I've spent time in Ireland, love the place
Downside being you think anglo / Welsh prejudice is bad .... ??


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I'll be honest - I'm mystified other than to conclude it's investment earmarked for Wales, being denied by a Tory government that will hide another massive overspend on budgets for England.

The fact is we lose £5.6 billion from a treasury we pay in to to benefit in no single way I can think of is by the by.

 

I’ve always wanted to visit Ireland. But the fact I’m expecting to be hated for being English puts me off a bit. I’m probably being silly and I’d be welcomed just as much there as I have been in Wales, Scotland, Poland, etc.

 

Let's talk about prejudice.

Wales have had one, maybe two Tory MP's at any one time in the last 50 years. What does that mean for Wales? Well, it means that any Tory government with a marginal seat in England, will ensure that that MP will claim any foreign investment to their area.

Why build a factory in the Rhondda Valley (which really does have a rate of poverty higher than most of mainland Europe) which won't win you a Tory seat, when you can put one in Middlesborough and maybe tip the seat to blue. (please read up about how Nissan and Toyota were 'encouraged' to build their factories in England).

People nominate Wales not having the infrastructure. Well - HS2, and 2 other rail project's in England cost the UK (including Wales) taxpayer £150 Billion pounds in the last few years.

So England get £150 Billion pounds of high speed rail - and Wales got 0.27% of the £150 Billion pounds invested in our railway system. ZERO point 27 percent.

We don't vote Tory governments in - and can't stop England from doing it. This is what is triggering talk of nationalism here, and in Scotland.


So yes - while the English are 'victims' of Welsh people maybe saying nasty things - what are we on the receiving end of?

At a Macro level Wales is very much indeed the victim of long terms prejudice.

 

Sorry moons but you still say England when the majority of money stays in the south of England.

 

You could say much the same about a few English counties. Where do you draw the line?

 

Fair one - the south of England does increasingly look like a house of cards.

 

Can’t afford time off, so not affected, either way.
Anyway. Shouldn’t be moving about. The virus dosnt travel... people travel. Should all be staying put, if there’s an outbreak, people will never know where it started!

 

Past caring mate - can't be changed so move along.
I've been a 'victim' of Welsh people reverting to their mother tongue but don't mind , they're Welsh , that's fine and if they're chatting away about me I don't really mind - more fool them for not having the balls to say it to me in a language I understand
The Irish thing is a totally different issue . As we all know the killing has only just eased off relatively recently but gawd knows what'll happen with the border issue come Brexit .
Torching a few holiday homes is small change in comparison...

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You only have to check to amount of cuts certain counsel's have had to endure, Barnsley, always Labour held. Check our cuts out.

 

I think you draw it at Wales is a country, not a county of England.

Here's one for you......

Some of the water boards in England, sell water to those in a drought - they make a fair few quid doing it - hundreds of millions in fact.

Wales is the main provider for England's 2nd and I think 4th largest cities, and their metropolitan areas - i.e. we provide water to Birmingham and Liverpool (the flooding of whole valley's in Wales, despite destroying generations of families homes and farms, churches where graves of loved ones had to be abandoned etc. was forced through by a Westminster government and triggered a surge in Welsh Nationalism).

That Water isn't sold for Wales' benefit (we earn pretty much nothing other than maintenance spend on facility) - all the money that English consumers spend on that funds private investors in foreign companies - as another national industry was sold from the many in to the hand of a few, and those few are actually foreign.

How many English counties have natural resources at that scale taken away for nothing?

How about Wind farms - Wales produces twice and much electricity than it consumes - the rest goes to private companies yadda yadda (see above).

So yes - the investment in many English counties is not fair, but very few of them contribute in the way Wales does for primary needs such as water and energy.