Spot on Its not just about having a parent at home Young children need lots of interection with other young children to build interaction and social skills Without sure start this would not happen for a lot of young children
hi para my daughter worked for newcastle council within the departments your on about untill last year when she went on maternity leave, on going back earlier in the year she was imediatly made redundent from the job she loved doing. helping the kids of the city. her boss, who did her masters degree at the same time but didn't come top of the class, i know who did. kept her job somhow. she was really annoyed that the department had got shafted...........
Pass my love onto your mrs and i hope she can find somthing where her caring is appreciated,payed well and shes respected for it She doesent talk much but you can tell from her body language that shes a very caring person
no para my daughter, not wendy........................ my daughter had 3 schools approach her when they heard about the redundancies about working within the schools to do group work with the kids she was helping in the first place. the irony is now she works for the school she works for the council which paid her to leave her job in the first place. they still shafted all the kids though get wendy on tequila and you'll need some naffing ear plugs mate
My appologies i didnt think you were old enough to have a child old enough to be a teacher We will have to arrange a weekend where wendy can consume tequila and ill happily sit and listen to her I want to go back up to dent this weekend as its my birthday But with le tour on its going to be hard work getting there I dont suppose you picked up the chair i left sun night by anychance?
my daughter decided not to be a teacher(may do when shes older) but has a masters in psychology and helps in differant departments. mental health, sexual abuse and helping kids get back onto what we would call a normal path, whatever that is. don't know about the chair you'd be better giving @ermintrude1978 a shout
i was talking to a old couple on the way to the airport ,they have a big house in the country [been in their family 100`s of years] they said if they left it to their children the inheritance tax would be too high for them to keep it... My kids were at sure start ,guess I bailed just in time.. just a outsider looking in, everyone is getting ripped off..
@paradox , I will check the van but I don't remember packing any different chairs, although I was still a little whisky dazed!
Playing devil's advocate - Of course the other side of this is: isn't it wierd that a whole swathe of society expect another chunk (taxpayers) to cough up for their childrens child care and social education so they don't have to do it themselves? It's worse - they EXPECT this and don't see it's their own responsibility? Life's about money in our capitalist society and if you have no work, you have an awful lot of free time to bring up your children. Maybe it's people with jobs, money and no time that need this assistance? Apparently not though, because as they have money they must also be good at bringing children up? Deciding who needs help based on how well off they are makes no sense to me. One way or another, government interfering in families bringing up their children just seems wrong and I wouldn't want it for mine no matter how much the people involved liked their jobs..
Sue Start isn't child care though, what they do provide is crèche facilities whilst the parents are trying to better themselves, they do not provide all day long child care. What they do, for example, is if a mother is suffering from post natal depression then they will help the Mum get better and give her some support with looking after the child, for an hour or two.
I won't and don't want to argue about this, but just from a personal perspective I think people who have children have to battle on and do their best as a family. Family is everything. I struggle to keep what's left of mine together because this is a very strong belief for me and the state can take a running jump, I'd rather we all suffer together in a cardboard box than get hooked up with "the state".
Zed, I don't want to argue either dude, its not worth the stress!! My post was just to comment on what Rainworth Sure Start does
As a couple. my wife and I are very independent due to my former and my wifes current employment. We sort out other peoples problems and therefore don't need help ourselves. That was until the birth of our youngest daughter who was born disabled. After a relatively short period of time, our lives and family were imploding and we realised that if we did not get help, our family would be no more. We were referred to Sure Start at Newark which had to only sensory equipment this side of Mansfield that we could access. It also allowed a couple of hours respite from our youngest so we could spend time with our eldest who was missing out due to the commitments with her sister. After a year or so the format of Sure Start changed and the sensory equipment was removed therefore making it not so suitable for disabled kids. They did continue their work in parenting classes with parents, some of whom you would not give a pet to, which hopefully would give some kids a chance in life. As previously stated, we were extremely independent, and it took a lot to ask for help. We do take pride in the fact that we did what was necessary to keep the family going above our personal feelings. The youngest still goes into respite with the social services and it is still emotional at times but we also had to consider our eldest. The ironic thing is that a Social worker said that we would get more support and financial assistance if we left our jobs and became unemployed! Needless to say, we kept working even though it was incredibly difficult most of the time. If these organisations close down, I have no idea who will help families in their time of crisis. I see more broken families, kids in care and suicides. Bit bleak really.
Isn't there something about passing the house on to, in this case, the children, and as long as the parents live something like seven years, the inheritance tax side is negated? And I can quite imagine that a large minority of baby boomers will suddenly be realising that all that lovely money they have tied up (albeit free and clear of a mortgage) in their property means that their kids will be facing large inheritance tax bills (40% on estates valued at > £325,000)...
Somebody has to pay the tax to run the schemes. If you want more schemes like Sure Start then you need to up the tax somewhere - like inheritance tax.
But they're not facing a bill, just getting less cash than they thought. Where is the money supposed to come from to pay for all of the services that we want? Someone has to pay, the "Government" is not an separate entity, the money they are spending comes from us, it's not free cash.
In Norfolk they were tendered out as such , so different charities and CIO's run different ones, lack of continuity of delivery , not meeting commissioners requirements , eg delivering Domestic abuse support etc , we assist in delivery in one of the local ones to assist them delivering to their KPI's
not upsetting the applecart and i hope that parents and kids can get as much out of goverment that will be of benefit to families however when i raised our kids we only had family allowance and a bit of tax relief - to improve our family coffers when i got home from work at teatime my wife would go off for a part time evening job while i supplied the baby sitting service now i,m close to pensioner age i,m told there,s no extgra money in the goverment pension pot yet i see a new allowance coming out for families up to £2000 AND familes who earn £149,000 will get it!
I've been going to sure start with both my littluns for 4 yrs and I think sure start down here must be different to sure start up north! Here, you can go and see a nurse/health visitor, have your baby checked over, get advice/help, or just go and play - it is also a playgroup. Sure there's information, help and advice on offer but nobody's going to look after your kid for you while you look for a job etc. it is in no way a crèche.
