Contract tracing app

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rustbucket, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. And anyone else have a big Android OS update pushed through their phones yesterday evening?

    Just a coincidence I'm sure.....
     
  2. This....
    You enter a building, Have no contact with someone who has the virus who was there at some point and have to isolate for 14 days. Self employed.... not good...l employed... possibly better..... and what happens the second third and fourth time. Geo data isn’t good enough is it. Try finding your iPhone.... it’s three doors down according to the app to find it but no... it’s in the kitchen. It’s not the answer I don’t think! How close do you have to be. I live in a semi detached house. I’m possibly only a metre away from my neighbours at times.... through a brick wall. Till someone explains the methodology and parameters it just seems to be something that might tell me that I might have been near someone and could then make an educated decision on what to do based on that.
     
  3. matty

    matty Supporter

    I’ve already sold my soul to Amazon,Google, Tesco etc so they are welcome to anything left if it help keeping people safe.

    One Weird thing is you can log in with a QR code into a place but it doesn’t log you out so then track and trace team have to call you to find out when you left
     
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  4. Barry Haynes

    Barry Haynes I dance in leopard skin mankini’s

    @crossy2112 don't worry they can't see what you're watching on your phone :thumbsup:
     
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  5. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    Don’t act the innocent Baz. We all know you’ve got loads of videos of the Roly Polys stashed on your Nokia :rolleyes:
     
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  6. As far as I understand it. It’s not just proximity to a confirmed case. It’s also time. For instance you walk past someone in the street who goes on to have a positive test, you won’t get pinged.

    also it doesn’t use geo location/gps. It uses Bluetooth which is much weaker. So even if you are in a big shop for instance. You would need to have been in Bluetooth contact and for long enough to get a message.

    then you don’t just take two weeks off. Once you’ve been pinged you use the app to get a home test sent to you. You isolate until you get sent the test result. So you could actually get the test the next day. Send it back same day. Then get the results a day after that. Still a massive ball ache but definitely not two weeks. My wife was tested on a sat morning and had her results Monday afternoon.

    I’m still expecting to be told at least once this winter to stay at home by the app. I’m not happy about it but I’d be a lot less happy giving it to my parents.

    bloody virus.
     
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  7. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    As I understood it you do get pinged if they go on to have a positive Covid test, so long as they tell their app...... but do you still get pinged If that contact was over 14 days ago? Not sure either what constitutes a contact. How close physically do you have to be for Bluetooth to work? I don’t know.
     
  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    If you were in my engine compartment and I was in the driver seat, bluetooth would struggle. Hope that helps. :)
     
  9. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    Yes. That helps :D
     
  10. Nominal Bluetooth range is about 10 meters in perfect conditions. In practice its a lot less, depending on the quality of the antenna design, and Bluetooth version (hardware version) of both devices.
     
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  11. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Yes, when you add up the thickness of the firewall, 2x tank wall and the van body there is 4mm of steel in a direct line and 1mm solid plus 1 mm perforated in the engine roof.

    Line your phone pocket with tin foil to reduce the rather silly 20+m away contacts. :D

    Or like me carry on as usual, my phone sits on the boat being a wireless internet hub, I'm posting this from my old phone which no longer has a sim card but still works my 123, banking and other apps, takes photos, sends and recieves emails...
     
  12. As far as I am aware Bluetooth has a defined minimum range of 10m, not maximum. Some of my recent Bluetooth gear can stay connected to my phone or laptop over 100m away.
     
  13. You have to be in close contact for 15 mins.


    I puzzled about people who live in flats ,if the residents above or below get could you be deemed to be close contact even though you may never have met them
     
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  14. Probably the original BT spec was 10m. It's come a long way since then.
     
  15. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    You live in a block of flats and somebody has Covid.. not entirely unlikely they breathed in a space that you breathed in too. Entirely justified to warn you.

    I liked a chat we had with a server in M&S .. told somebody who refused to track and trace they could only buy takeaway.. person ranted about giving away data, what are they going to do with it.
    Apparently the person concerned had a Sparks card, almost certainly a Facebook account that fed her with the brain babble in the first case, and everybody with a mobile phone is tracked constantly from cell to cell easier with 5G where a cell is only a few tens of metres across.

    I just wish people would realise how effectively they can be located as being in a given shopping area or residential area already..and stop wetting themselves over providing even a little more safety to others.

    I do have the NHS app on my phone ..

    I try to avoid feeding the Evil Facebook Shareholder Cash Generating Monster with too much data, the guys who are currently feeding the world with hate and fear and fluffy kittens
     
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  16. Amen to that mike.

    it was only a few months ago people were complaining about being locked down. Now it seems there might be a way to at least allow us to have some normality back by using technology and these same people are now complaining about being tracked.

    I live in a country of bellends.
     
  17. A country of bellends?

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    Nothing wrong with choosing not to use a rushed-out app that remains unproven.
     
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  18. Given the age of my phone, I am expecting a text warning me of The Spanish flu
     
  19. Someone's gotta test it for them. May as be the people who understand technology.
     
  20. Yep, crack on.
     

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