What would you want from a paradox experiance?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by paradox, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. just a by the by but everyone please beware of no win no fee it does NOT always mean this, its actually a" conditional fee agreement" and it has alot of small print BEWARE!!!
     
  2. i agree. i would look for relevant PL/insurance, Crb checks (if it's open to children or vulnerable adults), full first aid and probably some training qualifications, previous record of experience etc before i would even look at the weekend itinerary.

    These weekends/courses could be potentially dangerous if the instructor is not au fait with everything, clients need to trust them that the mushroom they're about to eat isn't going to kill them or that if someone injures themselves in a remote area that the instructor/s are fully equipped to deal with remote emergency first aid.

    after that.... shelter building, fire making, foraging, water collecting, cooking. :)
     
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  3. I was looking at it from a different angle ,not as official as wouldnt Para then need the land owners permission to forage as I doubt its his land and then wouldnt the land owner be liable if anything happened etc.
    Para get a job at the local Tesco pal ,I worked there for 9 years and met loads of great people and it took my mind off all the crap whilst I worked there and ended up getting a better job through it :thumbsup:
    Its a start :)
     
  4. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    If it's not official though how do you charge people?
    I'm guessing this is a business venture not a freebie so I can't how you avoid insurances, permissions etc.
     

  5. I agree ,there is no way ,I was wrong :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Instead of a formal arrangement - how about Para 'invites' people to a weekend demonstration of his survival skills? Each bringing their own tent and rations. Each welcome to emulate any of his demonstrations. No charge. At the end the invitees have a whip round for Para's 'tip'. Just like you do with the coach driver at the end of a trip - only this time slightly more generously. No legislation required.
     
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  7. landowner wouldn't be liable for paradox clients.
     
  8. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    and make it into a hearty stew.....
     
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  9. How about normal clients?
     
  10. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    That'll be fine until the first person gets hurt. Then you'll wish there was the relevant insurance in place.
    There's some surprisingly bad advice on this thread.
     
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  11. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Personally, I'd only pay too dollar (which this will have to be to make it worth while) if I thought it was being run professionally. That includes having all the right cover should the worst happen.
    If you just aim it at the people on here, you'll fill 2 weekends then run out of clients. If you want a large client base you need to run it properly.
    Simple really. It might sound negative but it's reality.
     
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  12. Woodylubber

    Woodylubber Obsessive compulsive name changer

    We all wish we could do something we like to earn money but non or very few do. if paras on the dole or disability benefit and can do this why not do what Congi said and just go get a job
     
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  13. Using a compass . . . to find the nearest pub!
     
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  14. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    This seems a sensible option, kinds like the knowledge transfer that takes place at Techenders really...
     
  15. a clear structure to the weekend, clear guidelines for clients and associated H&S provision and procedures in place and it will be doable.
    H&S isn't there to stop people doing things.... it's there to stop people doing stupid things and being accountable - surely a good thing, no?
    I've been looking into doing the risk assessments for an air soft event in a disused building - lots of chaps running around dressed as rambo shooting at each other in a building which has floor/ceiling and/or walls missing- NIGHTMARE. but it's not impossible... hopefully.

    Duty of Care is massive and frankly, i'd like to know that someone else took mine, or my loved ones welfare seriously ESPECIALLY when they've taken £.
     
  16. Thanks for the replys

    So liability insurance
    Appropriate first aid qualifications
    Crb checks
    Health and safety risk assesments

    People would mostly be interested in wild food and foraging
    Various fire lighting techniques and various campfire cooking methods
     
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  17. matty

    matty Supporter

    I thought you can only be sued if they can prove you where knowingly negligent

    If someone chops there leg off its not your fault just because its your axe unless you told them it was ok when you knew it was not
     
  18. No

    I'm only interested in drugs.
     
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  19. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Again though it works if its a very occasional thing.
    If its a business, surely the aim will be to be out every weekend?
    Members on here may dig deep for a "tip", strangers won't.
     
  20. clear itinerary of events - what you'll be instructing on (this will cover you if someone chops their foot off and claims that you didn't show them how to use an axe!)
    list of do's and don'ts (some people are numpties and will need to be told not to put their hand in the fire!) this can also be a 'contract' you have with the client. i.e. if they breech it and behave like a wazzock, you'll be asking them to leave.
    emergency and fire procedures

    the whole point is to be clear and transparent. The more professional you are, the more the clients will feel safer with you. and for bods sake... get them to make their own shelter! dens are fun!!
     
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