Have i been ripped off here?

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by carlperkins001, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. Ok so when i finished doing up the camper i had to move house and it was all a bit hectic. So i passed the camper over to a local (classic car) mechanic to give it the once over and get it going.. he said he had done loads of campers etc etc

    It does run and drive well but some things in the engine bay dont look quite right.
    A screw in a pipe on the carb, no hose clips on the fuel pipes and fuel filter inside the engine bay. Also the breater pipes are just connected to eachother?.
    Is that right?

    Thanks,
    Carl

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  2. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    No.
     
  3. With respect, you said you passed your camper over to a local mechanic to give it the once over and get it going. To me, the mechanic has done what you asked him to do and it now runs and drives well.
     
  4. personally i wouldn't put a fuel filter in the engine bay and those fuel pipes definitely need securing
    the screw in the pipe on your carb i think is for the advance on the distributor, are you running a 009 dizzy?
    connecting the the breather pipes from the fuel tank i am not sure about but someone on here will know
    clean looking engine bay though
     
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  5. Where breathers are joined should be a t piece with a further piece of pipe going to air filteri think.
    My carb has a pipe and screw - a common bodge I suspect!
    Fuel filter in engine bay, whatever next!!

    You may want to check his expert credentials!
     
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  6. Proper shoddy .

    Pic1 - Refit filter with proper clips under the van a couple of inches from the tank outlet .
    Pic2 - Should have a blanking plug but that`ll do the job .
    Pic3 - Can`t remember but that should be a 3 way `T` piece ??

    A good enough example of why people should do their own `stuff` . Even something basic like fitting a petrol filter in the engine bay can be bad enough but WITHOUT CLIPS ??

    Downright dangerous :mad:
    He may `have done loads of campers` but probably not very well :D

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  7. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    The screw in the pipe coming off the carb is blocking a vacuum port off, I'll wager you have an 009 distributor, else that pipe would be connected to the vac can on said dizzy.

    fwiw the screw in the pipe is common practice, we do that method when blocking off low pressure (< 1 bar) hydraulic pipes where leaking oil goes back to the tank.
     
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  8. Nice, ill leave the screw then. Pipes i can replace easy enough.
    Not sure if i have a 009 dizzy, how can i tell?
    The breather pipes werent in place when i got the bus so i have no idea where they are supposed to go lol.

    Thanks for the help so far!
     
  9. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    “Give it a once over”
    Not “bodge fuel and vacuum lines”
     
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  10. Exactly lol
     
  11. With reference to the second picture isn't the braided hose to the left of the throttle return spring the vacuum connection to the distributor? Can't remember what the blanked off port is for. Also noticed on that picture the connections to the fuel pump one has a jubilee clip not ideal , the other connection has no clip:eek:
    Should take you an hour or two to tidy it up not hard work
     
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  12. Yep - sure is . Totally wrong type of pipe but will do the job . That @MorkC68 fella has those new fangled `twin` carbs fitted and forgotten his roots ...
    :p

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  13. If the mechanic was asked to relocate the fuel filter out of the engine bay, secure fuel hose with clips and locate the fuel breather pipe correctly, I'm sure he would have done them. The carb vac port has been correctly blanked off with a piece of hose and screw (mine is like that), the side vac port has vac hose connected to the dizzy vac can.

    The answer to the question 'Have I been ripped off here?' is No.

    If you use a garage or mechanic, its essential to list the work you require them to do, being vague is asking for trouble.
     
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  14. Nothing wrong with the fuel filter in the engine bay - VW fitted them there as standard on late Brazilian T2's.
     
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  15. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Major is all posh, he has fuel injection tha knaaa's :D
     
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  16. If I had a mechanic replacing fuel lines I would expect him to use clips to secure them as would have been originally done not decide that he knew better than VW
     
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  17. Point taken but `don`t forget to put clips on the filter` wouldn`t be a request unless you knew it was supposed to have them fitted . You`re paying for his care and expertise , or lack of it .

    I didn`t say the op was getting ripped off , i just stated it was shoddy . Looks a nice van , shame if it went up due to fuel line popping off in the engine bay . He`d of course deny responsibility because he wasn`t asked to fit clips .

    It`s become a sad old world ...


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  18. In the engine bay is ok, but no hose clamps isn't.

    Also remember late Brazilian bays didn't have air cooled engines.
     
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  19. PIE

    PIE

    Would blanking off the breathers cause fuel feed problems and possibly collapse the tank?
     
  20. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    There are actually people with a lot of experience who dont bother with clips on fuel filters. If the hose is the right size it is almost impossible to pull it off if it has gone properly over all the ridges on the filter spigot.
    And if you use the wrong size or non circular clamp it can squeeze the hose and make a gap..

    All I would question right now is the tank breathers should join at a t piece and go to the air cleaner .. to where there is some mystery clear hose coming from the direction of the alternator. I do hope they havent just connected that clear hose to the spigot on the left of the inlet manifold below the carburettor ....

    If they have then they are a witless moron.
    As that is a ready made vacuum leak. If the hose from below the carburettor went to the top of the air cleaner and from there to a hot air control actuator under the snout on the air cleaner that would be good. But like that... nearly up to T2D standards.

    Take more pictures .. block off the clear hose if it does link as I guess, just kink it and wrap it in something to keep it kinked.
     
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