I guess the closest I have ever come to modifying to fit in was at the nudist beach ... But as most people have already said - why change yourself to fit into an environment you don't want to be in anyway. I spent most of my youth with my dad saying ' you need to look smart, get a hair cut, you are scruffy etc' - I have always lived by the thought that if you are happy and confident in yourself - people see this more than a fake you - hiding under a disguise
I run my own company, which involves visiting clients regularly. I don't stick on a suit for meetings, as the industry I supply doesn't dress formally, but I'm always well turned-out. Another company owner once said that he makes a point of wearing clothes, shoes and a watch that are obviously expensive but not obnoxious. The thought being "if I'm asking someone to pay me ten grand I don't want it to look like it's the first time I've ever asked".
If i'm looking at a car and some flashy salesman in his sharp suit comes over trying to give me the spiel am afraid i just turn away, i do the same for most salesmen in their obligatory suits most of them don't really know what their on about anyway they just talk but don't say owt, why do people think or their bosses think that wearing a suit gives them some sort of kudos, women have always tried to look good and some even try to out do their colleagues but more and more men are doing this now in the world of work, maybe they should concentrate more on doing a good job in whatever they do and not just trying to look the part
I went to look at a BMW 3 series for a company car some years ago (when I had a proper job) - jeans, t-shirt etc. Had to almost drag someone out to talk to me they were so up their own arses. Popped over the road to the merc dealer and no problems there, nice as pie, they got the business. A truly scruffy guy came in while I was there as well, rigger boots covered in concrete dust like he had just come off a site. Sales people were equally polite to him. A lot of people do jusdge on appearances, but they get it wrong too.
So hang on, are you objecting to his suit or what he's saying? Are you turning away before he's said anything because of his clobber or are waiting until he's talked and said something unhelpful? Surely in that situation the dress code is company policy? That'd be like going into McDonalds and ignoring anyone wearing a name badge (the over-familiar feckers!!).
What owen say's above is about right by me, judging people by what they wear generally comes from people who've gotta wear them, they're also the type of people who ask "and what do you do" at partys or just in chit chat from experience his wearing of a suit just adds to the bolloxs he generally comes out with to get your money, when has a salesman ever said anything that's ever gonna help me or you more than it's gonna help him
No I'm still confused. I understand if you don't like the idea of car salesmen - neither do I. But you're objecting to their company policy of wearing suits? Owen was talking about what customers wore wasn't he? He didn't mention what the salespeople wore, just that Mercedes was nicer than BMW.
don't be confused can't you tell by now i don't like suits in whatever context they're worn, except maybe black one's for funerals out of respect and white one's with flares for pulling the birds at a 70's disco in essence i'm saying in my non suit wearing or ever asking what do you do for a living veiw is that a nice pair of jeans and a shirt is all most people need whatever they do for a living
I change my appearance to suit my surroundings and the situation as required. Work is suit and tie. I'm a highly successful sales person who doesn't know anything in my day job. With a £20m + budget I have to look the part. There is a certain business etiquette. Company requires suit and clean shaven (unless you wear a beard or moustache?) So, last November I wore facial hair so I could blend in whilst on a trip to Los Angeles. I went Mexican stylie. Right now I'm in Spain, I have a 3 week beard so look a bit desperate dan stylie. Next week i'm in Germany so will be clean shaven and crewcut. For Germany I wear jeans and work shirt/jacket as it's accepted dress. A lot of the companies I work for have dress down Friday but we have a 'no jeans' policy when in the UK. We're also not allowed to expose tattoos. I wear thin white cotton shirts so they show through instead though. I mess with my facial hair so have goatee's, moustache, full beard, no beard. Have been blond, black, head shaved, Mohican etc. On my rare days off I wear jeans and t-shirt. I generally look like a vagrant when not at work. I refuse to wear anything other than shorts on my days off from May through 30th September. In 2 weeks I'm in the USA for a week so I'm on a crash diet as I intend to do a food challenge whilst there. Just another way of blending in. Right now I'm in the airport slowly getting stewed following a successful trip where I sealed a deal on something I know nothing about.
I couldn't care less what a person a wears it makes no odds - but if they are a "bad un" they will be a "bad un" whether they are in a suit or a pair of overalls! My old man say's "sh-t shines through!".
I have 3 modes of dress 1 what I'm told to wear by written work dress code 2 what I'm told to wear by Mrs (generally when posh do is imminent) 3 shorts, worn out hoodie, flip flops or rigger boots (generally in strange combination of colour as I am mega colourblind)
So have we actually managed to come to the conclusion that we should not actually judge an individuals personality by what he wears or not as we all have to adopt a persona at some point.
I believe we came to the conclusion that, generally, it may be unwise to judge a person by their appearance, but there may be occasions when, by social convention, a certain standard of dress is appropriate.
