The Lake district - nuclear waste to the dumped?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Lord Congi, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

     
  2. Terrordales

    Terrordales Nightshift

    Is Sellafield the old Windscale plant?
    I've got an anti Windscale sticker on an old guitar case, heaven only knows where or when I got that.
     
  3. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Yes Don
     
  4. Terrordales

    Terrordales Nightshift

    Thanks Malc.
    We have similar discussions down here about burying nuclear waste in the outback & as Australia is an ancient & very geologically stable continent it makes sense.
    There is only one nuclear reactor in Australia & that's a small one in Sydney & is mainly used for research & producing medical isotopes, I have to wonder in nuclear power is the way forward :/
     
  5. Rejected, and petition mentioned, well done all, see we can make a difference :thumbsup:
     
  6. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    i think only now are we as "the public" begining to hear stories of the disposal of this stuff...... you gotta wonder where it's been put in the 70's and 80's etc...... the trouble in my opinion is the government never plan long term they just want a cheap quick fix hence the fracking which i'm led to belive is a lot of work for not a great deal of quality gas? let alone the potential for earth tremors? i don't want to turn this all political so let's just go hydro and wind powered - we can flood wales and stick the windmills in scotland and nobody will care.

    joke - of course we care, there's a brilliant chipshop in barmouth.
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Apparently 70% of the UK's "stock" of nuclear waste is already stored in Cumbria. I bet a lot of it is in aging, unstable, degrading containment and the industry merely doesn't want to bear the cost to move it far. There's reportedly a hell of a lot of it! Imagine if train after train load of it crossed the country to somewhere else - there'd be another raft of objections and panic. No doubt it'll sit where it is now for another decade as the pile gets bigger and bigger.

    Personal opinion is that taking France's waste is madness indeed. Nuclear power may be fine or may not be worth it in the longer term, but you make your mess and you should deal with it. The French must be cock-a-hoop to be able to dump it in the UK.
     
  8. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Back when the company I work for was part of AEA Technology PLC (AEA was the Atomic Energy Authority), they used to transport, by road, Nuclear waste in special tankers..said driver of one tanker left a valve open, which left a glowing trail right the way from Sellafield, through Leeds to the east coast leaving a nice trail of toxic substances.

    HSE found out, rightfully so & fined AEA £70 million plus for the pleasure of the mistake. All of the group companies got sold off & as a result finished off AEA altogether - there is a report on this somewhere.

    Could a mistake like this happen in the future..possibly so!
     
  9. Travelling over the A66 these are a regular sight bringing waste from Hartlepool over to Sellafield for storage:
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    Theres a helluva lot of stuff stored in Sellafield already from the past 60 years of Nuclear use.
     
  10. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    i often go out to watch the flask trains at night, anyone remember the crash they did on the news in the 80's to prove how strong they are? search you tube for british nuclear train crash or suchlike, a lovely waste of a class 46
     
  11. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

     
  12. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

     
  13. Dear David,

    My name’s Peter Maher, and I’m a 38 Degrees member who lives in the Lake District. I’m emailing to share some great news. Yesterday afternoon, Cumbria County Council voted against plans to build a nuclear waste dump in the beautiful Lake District. For now, our beloved Lakes are safe.

    When I first heard about the plans, I thought they were a joke. How could anyone even consider spoiling the iconic Lake District with nuclear waste?

    I decided to do everything in my power to stop this from happening. I started a petition on the new ‘Campaigns by You’ part of the 38 Degrees website. And since then, the campaign has grown into something truly special.

    I was blown away by the response from our community - and also by the support from across the UK and beyond. Thousands of us signed the petition and emailed councillors to stop this from happening. We took our petition to the council, and on the day of the vote we had three huge signs displaying the growing number of petition signatures right outside their offices. It certainly got us noticed!

    Everything we did together worked. The councillors voted no. I want to say thank you to everyone who got involved. I’m so proud of what we achieved.

    And this was all possible because I started a petition on ‘Campaigns By You’. It’s new and we’ve just proved that it works. If you have an idea to make your community or the world a better place, give it a go and start a petition. It’s really easy to start a campaign here:
    http://you.38degrees.org.uk/

    But for now, let’s celebrate together. People power works.


    Thanks for everything, here’s to the incredible Lake District.

    Peter
     
  14. nuclear, not so clean energy. ::)

    of course there's also the waste chemical filled water from fracking to get rid of too (what hasn't a;ready leached into the soil), in the u.s. it's left to evaporate into the environment. nice.
     
  15. I think everybody has completely missed the point. For a start this is a diversion tactic, they already know where they want to stick it but needed to cause panic before 'coming up' with a backup plan.

    Secondly, why on earth are we using a power source that creates so much deadly waste, and waste that stays deadly for 250,000 years?!
     
  16. I think everybody has completely missed the point. For a start this is a diversion tactic, they already know where they want to stick it but needed to cause panic before 'coming up' with a backup plan

    So wheres your proof ?
     
  17. It's a time old tactic that the government has used over and over again. Say your doing something extreme so the public are up in arms, then 'come up' with a compromise. When actually the compromise was the original plan.
     
  18. Honky

    Honky Administrator

    Does anyone know how much waste is produced? If we could package it well enough and tag/track it, could it be launched into space until we are clever enough to deal with it?

    If it is huge amounts of waste then obviously this wouldn't be viable, both logistically and economically. Not to mention if it would be ethical to to dump our waste in space.
     
  19. Not sure of the figures Horts but it seems a fair comment and a good idea ,basically it could orbit the earth until we find a way to dispose of ,plus there would be no ethical issues as were not just sending it out into deep space :thumbsup:
     
  20. It has been discussed. But there is too much to send and would be too expensive.
     

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