Should David Cameron be publicly vilified for his previous anti-Mandela campaigning at University?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by vanorak, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. hes a posh PRICK id love to see the bas_____rd live on peanuts then i wont to punch his lights out owen nw
     
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  2. ron

    ron

    2 points - the deviousness of politicians can seen by the fact that they never answer a question with a simple yes or no but give a total waffling diatribe
    2nd - all politicans live by the same policies -the,re all the same trouble is the majority of people vote for a political party - blindly !
     
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  3. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    Whether a public figure or Joe Public, everyone says stupid things in their youth. Sure with a public figure your youthful statements/actions are there to be dragged up much later but to "villify" anyone for stuff they said 20 odd years ago is pretty feeble really. Clegg was rightly villified for his rapid u turn on tuition fees but he didn't make that pledge 20 years previously. Cameron's whole raison d'etre is neither here nor there in the light of (relatively) ancient history.
     
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  4. Whose David Cameron?
     
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  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Not mine.
     
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  6. Oops. Who's. :)
     
  7. spongebob

    spongebob Supporter

    Could be a lot worse...remember this unelected buffoon..

     
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  8. MP's have just given themselves an 11% pay rise.

    So, with the entire country having to accept 'austerity measures', councils etc cutting services yet increasing the taxation, someone name another industry offering above inflation pay rises, let alone one this high. I'm sure it is to offset, in part, the losses they think they are making by not claiming illegally on their expenses.

    The 3 main party leaders are apparently against it, are they then going to stand up and enforce a 3 year pay freeze on all MP's?. I think not. Are the elected MP's going to stand shoulder to shoulder with everyone else and refuse to accept it? I think not.

    As per the OP's original question, all MP's have a 'do as I say not what I do' attitude. David Cameron cannot have changed his political views so much that at one time he considered NM as a terrorist and now he doesn't.
    :mad:
     
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  9. No , but lying should always be exposed.
     
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  10. Bit political this
     
  11. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    It depends what we said.
    Demanding someone's death, then holding them up to be the saviour of the world is an about-face far too deep to be believeable. At one point either then or now he was lying (for personal gain). The tricky thing is to work out whether he was lying then, lying now, or both. I go for both, I don't believe he gives a hoot either way. Politics eh?
     
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  12. All the main parties are lying they don't do what they do for the good of the people it's a career and the aim Is the top or a cushy life for doing very little or as a second job the houses of parliament is a good place to network to make even more money jobs for the boys and all that sack um all let the civil sevice run things they are anyway if you want to be a MP they should fund it themselves then see how many want to do the job



    How many in top government leave there roll and not fall in to a top job at some city firm or chairman something big
     
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  13. Don't expect politicians do any more about turns than Joe public, its just that their thoughts get recorded whereas Joe publics rarely do. The situation isnt helped by the media that pick over every utterance hoping to find something juicy then putting their own slant on it ie take it out of context , selective paraphrasing to provoke reader knee jerk response etc. However thats the price of freedom of speech within a democracy.
     
  14. you should stand for election....:D
     
  15. Politicians should be held to public account...for words and deeds, past or present.....if in due course, Cameron was to make an official response to the effect that he was much younger then, times were very different, and at the time he believed his calling for Mandela's demise was well-founded, but in hindsight, completely wrong, I would have more respect for him as a human being, and a contemporary political figure.

    My old fella campaigned for the best part of 20 years to prevent the reopening of a local Opencast site. At the time, Frank Dobson (Labour) said "I will give you a cast-iron guarantee, that if Labour win the next election, the proposal will not go ahead". Labour won....the proposal went ahead...He was rightly 'vilified' for failing his constituency members on this issue....
     
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  16. Many moons ago relatives of mine had a close call with an RPG that failed to explode after jamming in anti grenade netting. At the time I can safely say I despised the British politician who in effect sanctioned this terrorism but years later, on learning more about that individual it became obvious that they had been doing the best they could in a very bad situation, equally important it was evident that politicians are not so much in control as they are inclined to make out. Something that still holds good today...
     
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  17. I disagree....at the time he made his remarks, he was an active member of a political party, and continues to pursue the same career...his reason for being was essentially the same then as it is now.
     
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  18. What a donkey...
     
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  19. Probably the biggest idiot ever to sit in the big chair ...
    And folk think Boris is stupid - far from it, although i think over the last couple of years he`s started to play the game and is getting closer to hopping on the bandwagon .
     
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