Safety of Women on the Streets

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PIE, Mar 12, 2021.

  1. PIE

    PIE

    I live in a little village, there is another little village 2 miles away down muddy single track lanes. When we had busses !! in the wisdome of the people in charge in the morning a bus would go into the local town taking the children to school and college, in the afternoon the bus brought them back to the next village. In the dark mornings you would see kids trudging one way and in the evening the other way.
    Bikes are out of the question due to the mud, they would leave wellies at the pubs in each village. To my great embarresment I would drive past young girls walking on their own in driving rain. I didnt feel I could give them a lift. I did say to the wife that I would visit the parents but the wife said that I had better not to avoid allegations. I did think that if something ever happerned to one of them I wouldnt be able to live with myself. I think that the actions of some vile perverts effect men as well as women!!
     
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  2. You are right about men being affected. When I used to pick up my grandson from junior school, he often stayed behind for a while playing with his mates on the field. There used to be girls doing cartwheels and handstands, so I used to make a point of looking the other way, in case any of the other parents thought I was watching. :(
     
  3. PIE

    PIE

    I worry about my wife and daughter more than they worry about themselves!!!!!!
     
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  4. Little Nellie

    Little Nellie Supporter

    Mm, seeing lots of headlines in the papers this morning saying ‘men have got to change their behaviours’. I’m aghast at these type of broad statements. Obviously what, allegedly, happened recently in London is totally off the scale, the act of a crazy man. But I find statements like this are offensive. In this respect, like the comments above,knock-on effects affect men too.

    I can feel the latest placards being scribed now.
     
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  5. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    I agree totally about broad generalisations, but that goes for any group. I think sadly though, statistically, we (men that is) are the main offenders for violence against women. It’s absolutely shocking to learn that domestic violence has increased during the pandemic. In a few cases that will be female violence on men but mostly it’s male violence on women. It’s a truly shameful thing. I don’t know how you go about addressing the issue though. You need to know what the causes are and they will be many and varied and very complex.
     
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  6. PIE

    PIE

    The "Tell men to stop attacking woman" narrative is just hollow, its got to stop but how the hell it can be done I do not know. Punishment? I dont think they care, I would say hang them but that wont happen, its beyond me?
     
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  7. Unfortunately the biggest danger to women isn’t from attacks by strangers. They are thankfully extremely rare. The biggest risk to women is attacks by men they know, normally partners or husbands or ex-partners.

    The biggest risk to men, particularly young men is attacks by other young men.

    It’s shocking what’s happened to that poor young woman. But there does also need to be a bit of perspective here, but of course the media in this country doesn’t really do perspective does it. So far this week I’ve been told by the media that cos I’m British I must be a racist and because I’m a man I must me a night stalking rapist. Haven’t got a lot going for me really have I.
     
  8. matty

    matty Supporter

    You also have to put it in perspective. Men are around 80% more likely to be attacked and killed than Women and attacks like this is very rare
    While this case is very sad and I don’t want to put any blame on her but I wouldn’t walk through a city park at night and I’m not a small chap.
     
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  9. Barry Haynes

    Barry Haynes I dance in leopard skin mankini’s

    Women should be able to go out jogging without being pestered or be able to travel on a crowded train without some Pervy scumbag touching them, a lethal injection would soon solve the problem then maybe blokes would think twice before they do it :mad::mad::mad:
     
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  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    All the above, even Bazza.
    I hope I'm not judged by the standards of a Met police officer though. They not all be bad eggs but it's long been a magnet for people who want power over others for their own gain much as the Catholic church, Children's services and many so called positions of trust.

    A total rogue I knew from the pub headed 70 miles South to that there London in the late 70's with the specific aim of joining the Met Drug squad to make his fortune reselling drugs. If you're a dealer and you get caught with 1kg of heroin I doubt you complain if either most or all of it goes missing. 6 or so years on he came back and bought a nice house for cash I heard. Different branches of policing no doubt attract different styles of bad 'uns. Even in Lincoln someone I knew was "nicked" with 4oz of hash that turned into 1/2oz when he was charged.

    It was "nice" to read he required hospitalisation after acquiring a head injury in custody. Or was it? Normally when then they smash someone up in the cells they deny it.
     
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  11. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    I often go for ‘walkabout’, on my own at night.
    Never felt like slaughtering anyone, though.
    I like going for ‘lonely’ walks.
    Went for a 14 mile one, yesterday.
    They trying to stop that?
     
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  12. Ozziedog

    Ozziedog Supporter

    I’ll just add a small thing here that I’ve come across within my own family group. Without detailing specifics, I’ve noticed on quite a few occasions that I wouldn’t want to go a certain way because I didn’t like the look of it, either it was darkened, or groups of youngsters were hanging about and it can be worse when the young ladies are encouraging the young fellas or indeed each other or there was a lot of alcohol about or any time I thought it was a little danger mouse even walking in the road when there’s no foot path on this side or I could see a rip current etc etc etc . But my Mrs, or my niece or other young ladies in the family, “Oh, it’llllllll beeeee alllllright “ as if they’re totally oblivious to any danger because there might be a few of us or because we’ve got kids with us or we’re all sober adults or whatever our super power may be that particular day. I’ve also had to stop Mrs Ozziedog approaching and admonishing our local drug dealers less than thirty yards from my house. I have been accused of being a bit spineless because of that too. Which I don’t think is warranted but I’ll take it rather than cause an argument :p
    We were burgled a few years back, possibly because the front door wasn’t double locked, they stole lots of stuff including my Merc and her Mini , cash, phones, lap tops, I pads etc etc etc, anything down stairs luckily. Now I’m the only one that locks up at night, as in the doors are not checked anymore and the windows too for that matter, immediately after and for a couple of years I was just double checking that the Mrs had locked up on her way to bed, now I’m just doing it nearly every night. If I say anything, I’m accused of moaning and going over the top.
    Are chaps presented with dangerous circumstances more often so are more aware? Are ladies more likely to be oblivious or expecting to be protected or shielded ?
    I’m saying this and trying not to sound like a woooose ;) but dealing with peeps involved in dealing the naughty stuff when they know exactly where you live and don’t really give two hoots about morals etc, and funnily enough they might know a few desperate addicts that you just don’t really need on your case.

    Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,,,or do I overthink things ???
     
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  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The more frightened you look, the more likely you are to be a victim. Not to say you can shrug off all with a stout heart but there is some truth in coward victimisers looking for the easiest pickings.
     
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  14. crossy2112

    crossy2112 Supporter

    So out of 600+ murders last year 100+ were female 500+ were male.
    So who is the safest walking the street?
     
  15. Pudelwagen

    Pudelwagen Supporter

    Looking at the perspective, it's quite possible that men are 80% more likely to be walking alone down dark streets at night than women. If women were more cavalier about their safety, there might well be more casualties.
     
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  16. Pudelwagen

    Pudelwagen Supporter

    See my comment above.
     
  17. im quite agree with what you have said but in a rural setting and there is an obvious danger would it not be possible for local families to organise a small take them there bring them home transport system or as a lot of people say these days, I just do not have the time
     
  18. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    I agree entirely.

    For me, as a man, I don't see why I ought or should change my behaviour towards any females as I know myself I am fully aware of what's right and wrong & would be mortified if I acted inappropriately. And I am not going to change my behaviour.

    That said, if I saw a girl/lady/older woman in need of help, I would go and help them. I would like to think I did the right thing for them, in a time of need.

    Why should us good guys be tarred with a bad brush?
     
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  19. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    ‘Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer’.
    Seems to work around here.
     
  20. The thing about men having to change is about the general culture. How many times, as a bloke, have you listened to other blokes talking about women in a way that would make you uncomfortable? I'm no snowflake but I do find the macho locker-room banter of the sports team changing room (I was a massive club cricketer in my youth) and the engine men's bothy down at the steam railway where I volunteer pretty dodgy at times. Do we normalise those kinds of attitudes too much in male society? I admit that I don't challenge in these situations because I would be rounded on as a woke snowflake type, but am I therefore condoning it?
    I teach a GCSE English class of strugglers that is mostly boys. I have to work hard on them to keep them from picking on the girls in the room too much. They think it's just a bit of fun, but as the neutral policeman in the room I can see how outnumbered and sometimes objectified the girls are and it makes my skin creep.
     
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