Rear gear linkage cage bushes

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by NickG, Jul 17, 2022.

  1. Managed to take a few photos of the rear housing & of the front set up, but im none the wiser!

    Rear housing has seen some action/better days. Dont laugh.


    Will i see anything at the rear, if i get someone to operate the gears?

    I wont fit under the front with someone in the van doing the gears. The bus has been lowered as well as me being a fat git!
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  2. Those are the new old stock bits. They are rock solid, the photos may make them look like they have groves on them, but its just faint lines.
     
  3. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    If you can waggle the shift rod underneath from side to side at the front you need a new front bushing... If you push the gearstick forwards into gear and then waggle it side to side while a skinny person looks at the coupler, you can see the cage rotating more than the gearbox coupler shaft, it needs a new pin through the coupler. At the front, my gearshift works like this..



    That has had a recon. gearbox, a new front gearchange rod bushing and a CSP coupler about 8 months back.

    I use those Fiamma levelling wedges as substitute ramps..
     
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  4. You sure your clutch cable bracket isn't departing again ?
     
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  5. yep i've checked that and all looks good!
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  6. Thanks Mike that is very helpful.

    As soon as it is cool enough ill put the front up on my wedges and check the front bits out more carefully.

    I couldn't feel much movement in any of it when i was under it earlier, but it wasn't in gear and nor did i have a person to operate the gear change!
     
  7. Just in case it is use to anyone ever

    Here is the Original new old stock coupler 230grams, next to the JS Group version 127grams.

    I can tell that the through bolt currently fitted on the coupler on my camper is like the JS Group one!
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    Silver vw one is longer.

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  8. Meltman

    Meltman Sprout Lover

    Looking at the condition of your existing rear coupling I would suggest that changing it would be A GOOD THING. When that's done have a look at the front.
     
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  9. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I couldn't see it! Might be fine under all that sludge. :)
     
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  10. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Yes, some bits of it were obviously staying together well enough that the sludge showed no sign of falling off.

    The origin of the sludge is a worn lip seal in the nose of the gearbox, and there should once have been a rubber boot over it to block the mud, now sadly NLA.
     
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  11. A bit late to this party - but the CB Rhino coupling inserts are brilliant.

    Reckon they will outlast your bus.

    The coupling cage is a bit dodgy - may need a blat of weld to stop the clamp spinning on the cage.
    Or put the rhino's in that VW cast cage

    https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/6110.htm
     
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  12. @NickG

    Cant believe you managed to drive anywhere with that coupling
     
  13. I thought the sludge was underseal, I'll have a taste later.
     
  14. Pretty sure you'll all say rear coupler needs doing!

    In gear waggle of rear coupler


    Changing gear rear coupler
     
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  16. Meltman

    Meltman Sprout Lover

    Your rear coupler doesn't look too bad....but I'd change it for what it costs. The front bush looks shot and needs changing....in my opinion!
     
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  17. Thanks. I have the rear coupler bits already

    Is the front bush number 15 on the haynes manual diagram?

    If so can that bush be done with out removing the engine& gear box
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  18. Meltman

    Meltman Sprout Lover

    I think you probably need to change the front guide sleeve number 10 in the diagram. I think you have to undo the screw no.23 and slide the muff coupling :p:p out of the way to enable the front shift rod to be moved. Probably have to remove the gear stick from inside the cab. I'm not sure that the front bush no.15 does much for the gear selection, just stops the shift rods from catching the chassis. Someone else may be able to come along with a better idea.
     
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  19. Ahh thank you very much, another wise man has told me the same.
    I also that part differs on early late bays and later late bays.
    Mine is a 1973 model year anyone know what sort mine needs
    I have this kit of gearbox bushes and shuttlecocks etc. is it one of them?

    Mine look pretty poor, but is there anything better? can't find anything on Schofields.


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  20. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    The kit of shuttlecocks is not a lot of use.


    Look here.
    https://www.alanhschofield.com/ourparts/cat_644595-Gear-Linkage-Parts.html

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    Just FYI mine is Oct 73 and has a 74-79 front gear rod bush and an up to 73 steering column just beside it..
    .... its a crossover year..on mine the bushing slots into a hole in a bracket, the slot in the bushing lines up with the hole which of course got slightly too big all the time the bus was driven without a bushing.
     
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