Interest rates. Have you ever heard such nonsense

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Poptop2, Jun 21, 2023.

  1. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Apparently putting interest rates up slows down inflation because we have less money ‘disposable income’ in our pockets to spend, that in turn creates less demand which In turn slows inflation.

    What is actually happening is people are maintaining high prices to pay their loans, because most of them are in debt to the bank. Ask anyone renting a property if it’s a good idea.

    And while I’m being contentious, where does all this extra money raised from higher interest actually go?
     
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  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Flippin inflation. I'm getting quite a good income from savings right now in terms of cash but I'm totally aware how little it is compared to inflation - it just rubs in how much my savings devalue each day. :(
     
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  3. Two words 'quantative and 'easing'.

    When you print money, you eventually get inflation!

    PS don't mention the 'B' word!!
     
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  4. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    “Baz”? :eek:
     
  5. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Can we mention the £700 Billion of government loans the Tories took to cover Covid 19 and banged into very small part of the economy?

    And how that money went offshore or simply super heated our economy - I mean - £700 Billion quid in 2 years might have an affect on an economy, surly?

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...ent-spending-boom_uk_5f0890c0c5b63a72c3413817

    There are too many articles of Tory party members buying mansions (literally) with Covid money when this government decided to ignore the Crown Commercial frameworks, and apparently many of the suppliers therein, to fastrack millions and millions of pounds into many unsuitable profiteers.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...mone-involved-ppe-medpro-government-contracts


    No doubt I'll be schooled later by those simply unwilling to see wrongdoing.

    No wonder they were having parties - they had a ton of things to celebrate.


    But for me - that Covid money is what has smashed the economy.
     
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  6. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I say old chap, are you implying the blighters robbed the country under the guise of covid, I say that’s a bit steep isn’t it?

    Bang on btw. How on earth can they get away with it, it beggars belief!
     
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  7. Tory governments eventually implode through infighting between the respective moderate and the loony right wings, but this time they've hoovered up vast amounts of public cash before they go.

    Perhaps there'll be a letter left at The Treasury saying "there's no money left, we've schnaffled it all - Cayman Islands here we come......"
     
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  8. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Same as 2008 - no one did any time, no one will this time either.

    The press do their usual suppression - its why they are going after social media harder, they can't control that as much.
     
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  9. docjohn

    docjohn Supporter

    I agree with everything that has been said about the inflationary impact of quantitative easing, chucking money at CoVid contracts, and Brexit, as well as paying for the furlough scheme. My anger and frustration is the dogmatic adherence to the simplistic and flawed demand side ‘theory’ that states that raising interest rates will curb inflation. The economy is much more complicated than that, and the Bank of England’s model gets it wrong time and time again, as their Chief Economist admitted on 23 May. I could go on and on about this and bore you all to tears but I won’t. The long and short of it is that raising interest rates is punishment for people with mortgages, car loans, credit card debts and all the other borrowings that everyone was encouraged to take out. The wealthy, who don’t need to borrow money, benefit from increased savings rates, increased bond yields, increased dividends all enhanced by the ability to move money offshore to avoid tax. Did you know that due but unpaid tax is estimated to be around £40 billion per year? :mad:
     
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  10. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    They’ve robbed us blind but until we get wise and stand up to them they will continue to rob us blind and keep us poor. They even have shares in pharmaceutical companies that supply us with free drugs when we’ve reached sixty how much of a scam is that, then look at how many have shares or are on the board of companies with government contracts. They should be dispelled just because of those connections but they’re not because it’s perfectly legal if they declare it!
     
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  11. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Hasn’t it been the same throughout history, forever? Don’t think I will ever be wealthy, but I will always be Rich in life.
    My father used to tell me, ‘The two roots of evil, is money and religion’, and “there’s always money, in bricks and mortar”.
    I’ve got no money to worry about, if that helps…Don’t believe in God’s, either. Too many to choose.
    As for inflation…I must check my tyres.
     
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  12. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    People are getting very annoyed about this I’m listening to Nicky Campbell now.

    As an aside the banks have been hinting at interest rate rises ever since miss sold bank account thing hit them and people claimed millions back off them. To me they are arrogant people that see us as thick cash cows!
     
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  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Some things never change.
    Best position at the moment is probably mortgage paid off, no savings. I came into some money and despite investing it I reckon I'm loosing about £1k/month to inflation. I'm not complaining, I'm sitting pretty, but it's not a cheery thought.
     
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  14. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I just think the greed is pandemic within the upper echelons of our country atm and it’s showing more than previously in our lives. It’s time to rein them in somehow and the more people talk about it on social media the more likely something might shift. They need outing!
     
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  15. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Also inflation isn’t falling as predicted despite the six fold interest rate rise.
     
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  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I don't think the actions have changed. What has changed is they are now happy to flaunt it in your face and flick the v's. In the past people had the decency to at least be a little ashamed of themselves and be sneaky.
     
  17. docjohn

    docjohn Supporter

    Thirteenth consecutive interest rate rise; isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? Or is it just stupidity?
     
  18. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    They’re dinosaurs at the B o E absolutely detached from normal people. You can almost hear them guffawing at people suggesting they have it wrong!
     
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  19. hailfrank

    hailfrank Admin esq.


    But as long as you have as much as you put in you’re not loosing just not gaining. Or is not a savings account and put in some risky shares type thing?
     
  20. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    You don't have as much as you put in - that's the point. Or more accurately what you have even with the interest is now worth less than when you put it there.
    I should buy a house but knowing my luck there would then be a housing crash. :rolleyes:
    ...and I don't want a house anyway. Bigger boat maybe. :)
     
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