In or Out

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Woodylubber, Feb 19, 2016.

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In or Out

Poll closed Jun 23, 2016.
  1. In

    51 vote(s)
    28.5%
  2. Out

    110 vote(s)
    61.5%
  3. Undecided

    9 vote(s)
    5.0%
  4. need more unbiased information

    9 vote(s)
    5.0%
  1. Pudelwagen

    Pudelwagen Supporter

    I feel sorry for the bloke(ss) who voted "Need more unbiased information".

    Not a hope!
     
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  2. I'm not arsed who knows, I voted to stay in - in this poll.
     
  3. Woodylubber

    Woodylubber Obsessive compulsive name changer

    I set the poll and did'nt add that, I don't know who did, I think it needs removing as he's undecided so undecided will do
     
  4. Having the entire economy wiped out because the major banks collapsed was never an option, although it was Labour who recognised this after 2008 and held the system together at great cost to the taxpayer. If the banks were effectively bust and needed saving, the shareholders should have lost their money as soon as a bail out was needed, but that's just my personal opinion and the politicians (on both sides) had a lot more to worry about than me.
     
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  5. Thats me ,I've been looking at some foreign news sites to see how they see it .In Switzerland for instance,they don't want immigrants and they would like to know how immigration will affect the in out vote here
     
  6. thats me ,how can you make a decision if you dont know that facts and not facts from tory newspapers
     
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  7. stand up and be counted i say
     
  8. I agree with many of the out posts though so am really very undecided, I guess its because the economy seems fine at the moment employment wise and am worried we might cut ourselves off.
     
  9. It took Canada 7 years to get free trade agreement with Europe
     
  10. Woodylubber

    Woodylubber Obsessive compulsive name changer


    So.your undecided so vote undecided until have decided then vote again :)
     
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  11. ron

    ron

    The problem is at the moment the argument is not about what the terms are but the pros and cons of staying/leaving let's just find out what is on offer first
     
  12. The problem is really that it's not black and white. IN will tell you we will be better off IN and OUT will say that we are better off OUT, but there's no proof either way. I 'THINK' that we are better off IN, but there's no fixed number that can say for sure that's the correct answer.
     
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  13. ron

    ron

    So if we leave does that mean that all the foreign governments who own our railways , electric ,water utilities will leave? That we,ll not be restricted from subsidising our Steel industry ? Mind all those who take day trips to the EU to get cheap tobacco will be knackered lol
     
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  14. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    It's a shame that most people (like me) will have to vote based on little more than who we "trust" most.
    Both sides will lie about the pros and cons of Europe. There really is no way of getting an unbiased picture making the whole thing a farce.
     
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  15. ron

    ron

    The thing is we are so intertwined with the EU we couldn,t just break off new agreements would have to be in place all divorces have to be settled
     
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  16. Better OUT of a bad marriage than staying in it just for the sake of it.
     
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  17. I'm not sure we can trust any politician, industry bigwig or whoever, they all have their own hidden agenda. And some of these agendas seem well hidden.

    My view is that it is the economic position that most people are worried about, no one is going to be able to give an accurate prediction, again the forecasts will be twisted by the experts to support a view. All you can go on is your own opinion as to whether trade will cease, it might become difficult for a while and as for investing in the UK, as long as we have something worth investing in then that will continue and those 'foreign' investors who have already pumped money into the UK, whether utilities, property etc won't be wanting to see that go to the wall, will they.

    One of the issues for me is the lack of control and that people who we have not elected and have no influence are running the show.
     
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  18. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    That's pretty much my point.
    Any info we get will be skewed by one side or the other.
    If I don't understand it by the time of the vote I'll probably go for OUT. It can't be any worse than being IN right?
     
  19. Pudelwagen

    Pudelwagen Supporter

    No. Half our country is owned by the Yanks and the Chinks. They are not in the eu. Leaving the eu won't make any difference to ownership of companies or utilities.
     
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  20. I'm. Making a statement here ,that's saying where can I get the facts that are honest I know the answer to that .so how can you form an opion ,who you gonna trust
     

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