Food parcel

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crossy2112, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. davidoft

    davidoft Sponsor

    that’s a pretty big statement isn’t it , that if you can’t cook that you’re a bad person and parent
     
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  2. I think bad is the wrong word, but it's really not that hard to follow a recipe and make basic meals.
     
  3. I saw the pictures of what was being provided in the free school meals box and was amazed and angry that some company thought that would be acceptable to feed a child the meals they would miss in a week or is it 2? Isn’t it supposed to cost the gov 30 quid per box?
    I bet the over-privileged turd that devised this food box and is raking in millions while some children are hungry doesn’t give a second thought about what it’s like for millions at the moment. Get the kids fed, if the parents can’t cook, teach them when this is passed. Some people’s lives are rubbish- help them.
     
  4. CollyP

    CollyP Moderator

    Here is my take on the 'terrible parenting' of those being vilified.

    If kids are not being taught how to cook (add any other life skill here) we should blame the parents right?
    By that logic, surely we should blame the grandparents for not teaching the parents?
    Who didn't teach the grandparents to cook / budget?
    Was it their parents?
    How far back until we find out whose fault it is?

    I'll tell you one thing - it's not the kids fault!
     
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  5. davidoft

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    well it is if nobody gives you a recipe book or encourages you to cook, my friend runs a swimming club, I can’t swim, he doesn’t believe anybody can’t swim because it’s really easy ( For Him) I’ve had swimming lessons as a child and an adult and go in the pool with my children whenever we get the opportunity, I still can’t swim or float. There are scales of skill aptitude, ability whatever you want to call it , some people are at the Gordon Ramsey end , some are in the middle and some people burn a cup of tea. It’s flippant to suggest everything is easy to everyone
     
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  6. There's a lot wrong with those parcels. I've heard of them turning up with half a pepper or tomato, and with 'frubes', basically a yogurt in a plastic tube, and processed cheese. Wouldn't it make more sense to stick 5 spuds in there, some porridge, some uht milk, beans etc? And then there must be mountains of wonky fruit and veg to be used?
    I'm a bit confused about the £30 though. I take lunch to work every day and I reckon it costs me £5 a week. I also have a sachet of porridge at my desk when I get in, and that probably costs me £1 a week plus milk, so let's say £3 a week.
     
  7. Is the equivalent cost of providing a free hot school meal - that money being used to provide food boxes? Well what’s left after the board take their bonus’
     
  8. docjohn

    docjohn Supporter

    I went to a posh boys school and we didn't do home economics, only art and pottery, and Latin, I skipped the optional Greek. Fortunately my Mum decided that I would be more eligible if I could cook so that's where and when I learnt. I'm now a governor at the local secondary school and what they do in Food Technology is absolutely stunning. The best bit is the inspiration they give the kids whose parents didn't get the same chance and didn't develop the confidence to cook well. Sadly, that's not the same everywhere.
     
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  9. Pudelwagen

    Pudelwagen Supporter

    I was talking about the food, not the social life!
     
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  10. CollyP

    CollyP Moderator

    Fantastic! I taught mine after I separated from my wife and the kids became embarrassingly food fussy in front of my sister (as did her kids).
    I decided that the little Herberts could cook their own bleeding food and then eat it; they did - I bought kid friendly cook books.
    If they cook it, they will eat it.
    Daughter still not starved to death at uni; son makes better poached eggs than I do! :)
     
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  11. My parents taught me to cook but hear is the problem.....the kids cannot cook because the parent can't cook because the parents parents couldn't cook or be arsed to show them how...
     
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  12. I went to a very un-posh boys school 400 *****ers per year we still did a bit of cooking, was the 70s though, do kids do metal work and woodwork as well? I learnt to cook in the Scouts, let's face it if you can cook a roast in a tin over an open fire you can cook one in a fan oven. My son who is of primary age (11) hasn't done any cooking at school ... he goes to these Gucci after school cooking lessons cost us an arm and a leg but he will never starve or be out of work ... at the moment done on Zoom. He also watches the food network channel and comes out with all the nonsense you hear from celeb chefs on TV, what really *******es me off is when he announces my food is kitchen nightmares a la Gordon Ramsey and pops out to the kitchen to do his own thing.
     
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  13. docjohn

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    Yes, at the local school they do some metalwork and woodwork, but to be honest, it's not as good as the food and textiles.

    Mine wasn't perhaps so much posh, as pretentious provincial, but we had a choice of well equipped woodwork or metalwork shops and I chose metalwork as my Dad and both grandfathers were all competent woodworkers. In the end they didn't teach me anything, but that's another story.

    I love the distain of youth for their elders; he'll go far.
     
  14. I bet nowadays they have to hide the dangerous tools from the kids just in case they decide to stab each other.

    Mine was as they say as rough as ***** ... my grandfather was a skilled fitter/turner and foreman of a massive machine shop ... I didn't learn anything either it wasn't until I left school and did a 4 year apprenticeship as a shipwright that I got the eye for that sort of stuff.

    As for going far ... I hope so ... and the sooner the better.
     
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  15. Day

    Day

    My daughter has gone through school and nothing about these basics was taught.
    That's my experience.
     
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  16. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    If you can read you can cook ........if you want to .
     
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  17. davidoft

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    what if you can’t ?
     
  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    My ex managed to be a roll model for making a complete mess in the kitchen while cooking and expecting someone else to tidy it up.

    I wasn't taught to cook either at home or at school but having eaten nice food I can't stand processed stuff so I taught myself to cook by googling Delia Smith recipes because they are simple and don't require a pinch of a million different ingredients. It's not rocket science and anyone who doesn't do it is simply lazy. Sorry but it's true. ANYONE can follow simple instructions. A few years ago I couldn't do more than heat beans and boil eggs, now I make every single thing and two of us live on the £30 it apparently takes to feed one child rubbish at lunchtime. Yes, that's every single meal and it's all fresh, butter no marg, fresh fish meat, veg, fruit, cheese, live yoghurt, homemade cakes and cookies and real coffee.

    I'm not keen on posts that say "I can do it so no excuse for anyone else not to" but I'm making an exception for such a simple basic part of human existence as eating!
     
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  19. davidoft

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    Then everyone would already be doing it surely;)
     
  20. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    What did people do before supermarkets with their shelves and freezers of processed food - starve to death?
    No, they made something from a turnip and half an onion fried in the fat left permanently in the frying pan if they had to.
     
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