Good morning all , I’m wondering if I need to run a stainless pipe from my hob to close by the gas bottle or is it acceptable to run from the regulator in hose well clipped direct to the hob ?
You're best to take advice from a Leisure LPG qualified Gas Safe engineer to be honest Chris. Lots of folk do lots of different things with gas and whilst it may work for them, it's your safety that should be paramount. I know there's recommended max for flexy hose and on the boats the BSS examiners don't like to see too many joins. There may be recommendations around steel Vs copper as well on the pipework. Best to do it right , once... We have Gas Safe engineers on here but I'm not sure who is our current Leisure qualified bod? Your local marina or caravan park would be able to point you at someone possibly...
Thank you Bus monkey , I’ll put some feelers out . It’s about the only thing so far that’s thrown me , as you say safety first .
Well, that's all very well @theBusmonkey but I sure as heck ain't paying some pro to fit a short piece of gas pipe. My last boat was owned by someone who always paid the correct pro to do everything. This was a connection on the gas... revisited several times by the "pro". I know this as I contacted the PO about it. Sorry, but I might not be a "gas safe" pro but I'm more competent than that and it's ME that may or may not explode so... Just sayin - there's excellent professionals and lazy arse professionals out there. For the average punter - how do you know the job has been done right after the event, you can't see this kind of botch.
^ I'm a DIY kind of guy. I barely ever pay professionals and got to say that's for good reason. Almost every time pros have botched for me. From my horrendous engine build to stripped wheel studs to lowering with random camber, that gas pipe, the list goes on. I'm trying to think of an occasion where paying a pro turned out well and... I can't think of a single time that I haven't had to do it again myself or take it back for another go.
I wasn't saying that. A phone call for a bit of advice may pay dividends if there's no one on here who knows for sure...and as well as you know me, you know what I'd do..
I suppose I'm lucky in that we know our BSS examiner personally. I 'think' there's a max 1.5m recommended length for flexy but can't remember for sure. And it's date stamped for a reason. This relates to boats of course and again I have no idea if it's the same for leisure vehicles or whether the advice changes with intended use. Just one of those subjects @Zed that one man's competence is another's disaster..as you prove above
bit more info might help. Where's the hob in relation to the bottle storage, what connection is on the hob. Are there any other gas appliances or fixed (or indeed flexible) pipework for gas in the bus (fridge, propex etc.). From a personal perspective if the run is long and through areas where a flexi might get damaged id use copper. (not stainless). dependant upon the connection to the hob then either direct connection in copper or a nozzle and flex to the hob. I would also usually use a quarter turn valve for isolation and of course theres the flexible connection to the bottle to consider. But then again that would be me and my van!
I suppose it depends on how much gas equipment you have. I've just got a cooker so it's simple and I don't see any need to add more potential leak points with an isolation valve as there's one on the bottle.
Where’s Rusty @rustbucket when he’s needed If you had added a political angle He would be on it within minutes.
I'm gas Safe registered,I'm not registered for LPG so can't give any advice on the subject ,also I'm reluctant to give advice for gas stuff so someone can have a go . There's some things that only come with experience
I agree I think I mentioned habitation check once and was nearly beaten to death with my own sun visor .
Some of us have real jobs. Anyway I’ve asked Liz Truss about this and she said she couldn’t give a monkeys as she’s retiring in two years. On a serious point I don’t have the lpg ticket or the leisure vehicle so I’d just be guessing. My own personal point of view is that I’d always run gas in copper and limit the length of any flexi hoses, because obviously hoses degrade, hoses are more susceptible to heat damage and more susceptible to being knocked and leaks being caused. But like I say that’s not from any position of knowing what I’m talking about.
..and another swing on the spanner! If at first you don't succeed, don't bother looking to find out why, just keep tightening it up!
I fitted a complete heating system with my Father in Law many years ago to my old house, all that we had to do was get a Pro to connect up the gas to the combi. Half hour after he left we called the Gas board, they fixed the leak for free and took the Pro's details.
Good one on the marina the other day - someone had an immersion heater and the switch was getting really hot. The "pro" installer hadn't bothered to strip any of the wires, too much effort I guess, just graunched down the screws so they cut through the insulation. You do get a lot of problems like that on boats, like coiling up a mile of wire or flexible pipes because they CBA to cut it shorter. I imagine it's partly because they can't be bothered to walk 200 yards back to their vans for the tool they forgot to pick up.
