Camper 240V sockets

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Zed, Oct 16, 2015.

  1. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Ah, well in france we hired a fridge on a campsite. It was a standard domestic jobby, plugged in the mains (trailing 240v leads) plonked in the field with no protection rain or shine. If it rained we used a stick to open the door and knock the beers out.
     
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  2. matty

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  3. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    So it's just a size thing?
    I just removed a CBE socket and it's lumpy. One part face fixes to the cabinet with gubbins through a hole. Then another part screws around/on top which seems to serve no purpose other than to cover fixings, but has 2 screws itself directly into cabinet. That's 6 screws into the cabinet for a single socket. Lastly yet another bulbous plastic surround clips over the top. If the idea was to hide the fixings it doesn't really - it hides the last 2 screws but has it's own argueably ugly clips to fit it. Mine didn't have a back box - perhaps the back boxes are sleek and they gain there?
     
  4. theBusmonkey

    theBusmonkey Sponsor

    Sure you got the right bits?
    There's 3 parts to the cbe:

    The socket itself, 2 screws opposite corners. TBH the frame support would probably hold the socket in place with the lugs, see below. The socket goes into a hole in the panel but I can't remember what dia..28 or 32 mm or something.

    The frame support, this has lugs that fit into the 2 vacant holes in the socket. Then 2 screws at 9 & 3. (or 12 & 6 depending how you fit them)

    The decor trim. This clips over the frame support hiding all the clips, screws etc & makes then quite neat actually.

    Central socket & frame support
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    Decor panel clipped in
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  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    That's the one, I could design a flusher, neater one quite easily.
    Style has been kicked into the back seat in favour of ease of fitting (a simple round hole in the board).
    I would like stuff as flush as possible in the teeny camper, I know you understand. :)
     
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  6. theBusmonkey

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    I certainly do. My cbe is under the bed, hidden away in the support for the R&R bed hinge. Best place for it...:rolleyes:
     
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  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I also have what in effect a glorified fuse box with a light switch. It must have been a similar 3 piece design though not the same make. But the middle bit was missing and the outer screwed over. I ditched the lot and the flush panel is so much better not bulked out with a kiddy safe blobby plastic frame.
     
  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    And that leads me to my next rant. :)
    The "Control panel".
    It has a switch to pick between off, car and van, with a voltmeter to worry you about your battery which is always on if you want power on.
    This is linked to 3 switches - pump (with an led on light), lights and aux. These in turn are each wired through a fuse.
    I've wired aux to the cooker ignition while I thought about it.
    Now what I think is I will get a simple fuse box and a light switch. The rest can be permanently on, the pump only pumps when you operate the tap, the gas ignition has it's own switch, the worry guage can go, I have a solar controller that will tell me my battery state when I want to know, which isn't all the time!.
    And I don't intend to wire in the vehicle battery to the leisure electrics - I see the intention, but not for me.
     
  9. theBusmonkey

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    lol, we sit in a unique place in the market, needing all the bells & whistles to make living, travelling & camping comfortable but having hardly any space to accommodate it! Good converters with imagination and a finger on the pulse of what's available should never be out of work ;)
     
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  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    After letting this sink in for a suitable length of time, I will also put my sockets inside the bed. What with that and the psuedo "control" (i.e. pointless switches and meter) panel going for a burton I'll have an area of holes in the furniture to cover up with something. It's just possible I can spin the whole panel 180 degs and what was inside at the back will be outside at the front, hiding the holes if the panel is deep enough. I'll see tomorrow. :)
     
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  11. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Just had a measure, That will work, I can start again with the switch/socket etc locations. I'm enjoying myself.
     
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  12. matty

    matty Supporter

    All mine are hidden or small

    Fuse box, mains box, a standard single socket, ctex and the propex boxed in under the bed
    The lights a swivelling strip above the sink and the sliding door and 2 flush tilting spots in the overhead locker for reading in bed then one above each seat in the front they have built in switchs or a small rocker switch next to it.
    The fridge has a hidden on/off switch in the cupboard
    Propex thermostat on the end of the cupboard so you only see it when in bed
    Solar controller / split charge unit in engine bay above the main battery
     
  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    You could be describing mine though I'm aiming to keep as much as possible out of the RR bed base. :) when I get there...
     
  14. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Bit like the shower in the Greek hotel many years ago... We ended up standing on a plastic stool to turn it on and off because the shower mixer was a bit 'live'
     

  15. nah, i googled it ;)
     
  16. As above, it's because the "standard"-ish Euro panel size isn't large enough to accommodate a switch as well. European sockets are generally unswitched.
    UK 13A sockets to BS1363 have shutters so small children shouldn't be able to insert their fingers (or other objects...)

    So - you'll be fine using an unswitched panel mount type.

    I went for a MK metal clad socket, and made it flush mount by fitting the back-box inside the bed box. The flexible cable is retained with a compression gland.

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  17. Brown bakelite for that vintage look. IMG_4190 (640x480).jpg
     
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  18. nicktuft

    nicktuft Supporter

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  19. Where the hell did you find that?
     
  20. I got a couple off ebay. I thought it looked the part, though it's probably out of the 1950's.
     

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