Amazing whats widely available. Surprised noones asked about controlling their propex heater from an i phone. Thats been done too!
Yep! It's jumped to another level Having trouble trying to keep ahead of the clients Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Speaking to a few sparky friends of mine on this subject and they reckon that the supply to the bit I plug in would be circuit protected and have its own rcb fault switch (whatever they are called). Thereby making it safe anyway. Caveat being If the site power supply met current regs (which should be a given)
You'd like to think so but this is from a camp soite in Germany. These campers are taking a lot on trust.
@Dicky do you think I should stop using my plug in one then? That means I would have no power etc in my T2
Pillar looks like its probably ok. A lot of schuko adapters into ceeforms to allow connection and its all a bit of a mess
youve either misunderstood, are misquoting or know some dodgy sparks but you are partially correct. The socket in the supply pillar is, or should be protected by an rcd. That protects the cable up to the inlet point of the vehicle. If the vehicle isnt properly earthed and/or there is no rcd in the vehicle then it wouldnt give the same level of protection and indeed would operate more slowly due to its distance away from where the fault is. A safe supply depends on both being present. As a note. I have been on sites where there are no rcds .... just fuses!
In light of all the advise here, there just is no sense in taking shortcuts with a hookup. New editions of regs come out for good reason ..well explained by the resident sparkies here.
It depends how you asked the question, IMO if the metal of the bus became live and wasnt earthed the RCD would trip if its functioning correctly, but I definitely wouldn't rely on it. If you ask "Do I need to earth bond the metal of my bus when using 240v inside it" the vast majority of sparks would come back with a resounding yes.
The thing is this is not new editions of the regs it has been the same for at least 20years that i know
Yeah I know what you mean, I meant more that regs come out and practises evolve sensibly otherwise we'd still be using wylex fuses with a panel pin to stop the fuse wire blowing
What gets me is people spend a fortune on buying/restoring or fitting certain wheels to their van but are not willing to spend a few quid on making it safe. I always ask do you really need 230v in the van
Has anyone mentioned the split cable connectors used at Techenders and how safe they are Nothing like opening a can of worms Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm not trying to wind people up,just aware that the health and safety brigade would have me drinking liquid food if left to foregone conclusions. So my understanding is as follows If the camp site hook up is illegal state, cable I use is damaged but only the small bit of cable that touches the van is damaged then Im going to die as my van is live. Correct? So if hook up us legal but the small bit of cable touching the van is still damaged, then I'll get a shock but will be protected by the fuse box to the mains. Am i right so far?
I was pondering that earlier. The regs require that the supply lead is continuous and not daisy chained therfore a splitter doesnt comply. It does introduce further possibilities for earth connections to be dodgy, particularly if they are the pigtail type ie two flexes into one plug. Obviously they introduce more connections, so more opportunities for a bad connection. Thy also mean that someone elses dodgy lead could result in your van becoming live. So... not a good idea All that said. If a splitter of proprietry construction inserted directly into the socket at the pillar and then properly constructed leads distributing to properly wired and earth vehicles operating appliances in good order and of proprietry construction......... need i go on. Too many provisos to make it actually safe really but we all take risks. Ive used my splitter at TE. I know my install is ok and my splitter is tested so took the risk. The most likely issue is the circuit breaker tripping due to the cumulative load! Ive reread this and i know im getting rather boring now!
I resent the health and safety brigade reference. Im trying to advise you on how to go about it safely so dont get all libertarian..... do what you want, likely you will anyway cos your decision process is clearly superior to mine!.......however I will get over it Im unsure what your question is exactly but if it is the scenario that the site installation isnt up to spec and the rcd doesnt work and that your supply lead is faulty and there is a bare live conductor and that you then stick your paws on it then yes, its gonna zap you and regardless of how well your van is wired it wont make a difference. However the supply lead is yours then you should have checeked it but sh1t happens!
