Arent RCDs great

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dicky, Jan 19, 2022.

  1. Get a Greek sparky in. He’d sort it :thumbsup:
     
  2. This is what I came across when managing an NHS contract in Laahndan.....

    All perfectly legit.

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  3. It’s all about the IP rating!! That vent at the back is suspect and the controls….
     
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  4. I do know… and would like to demonstrate to you
    lol. Rcd would trip…. Or it wouldn’t! Both possible but with very different outcomes!
     
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  5. The vent is for the fridge underneath - I kid you not.
     
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  6. Safe installation is about designing out risk or reducing it to the lowest level possible and then introducing measures to mitigate or reduce the risk even further. Using a fixed IP Rated drier or moving it to a safer location is the former…. The RCD is the latter however engineers will try to justify stuff like this by saying an rcd is the control measure. I’ve been around a long time and assure you that they very often don’t work on fixed installations or they get lazy just sitting there for years on end without being operated!
     
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  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I've been messing wif ya as I'm sure you realise, but also see my post #39 in case you missed it. I'm definitely not in favour of "life" testing electrics. :)
     
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  9. Dazza

    Dazza Eyebrow not high brow

    As long as the RCD is a type A if an EVC is installed otherwise if it's type AC it might not work ...

    Yes , we've got heavily into fitting EV chargers and there's more to it than just chucking them onto a spare way..:D
     
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  10. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Was in a Greek hotel where you had to kneel on a plastic lawn chair to avoid getting a shock off the shower tap...
     
  11. I think fear of water and electricity is a British thing, I blame Charley and the scary cat from 1970s public safety films. On the Continent there's a much more laissez faire attitude. Our bathroom has three mains sockets, for whatever you want. We do have a much more complicated fuse box, which no doubt has an appropriate trip, but I was metaphorically shocked to see the plug next to the bath when we first moved here. We also have a three phase socket in the basement, should we need 415V. When you move into a new apartment it's not unusual to see bare wires hanging all over the place. When you move out, you take all the light fittings with you, not to 'get your money's worth', but because they're yours. In some places you'll even take the fitted electrical kitchen appliances. A lot of British expats sit in the dark during their first week here. That said, there is an expectation you'll get a qualified electrician to fit your new lights, or even a new bulb. When we first moved here we had to pay the equivalent of about £200 for a local electrician to plug in the telephone, he was most surprised I'd already done it, but as he was sent round by the telephone company and we had to pay him.
     
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  12. Type B RCBO!
     
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  13. I darent even read the IET guidance!
     
  14. of course mon brave! Me neither. As mentioned above its interesting regarding the approach in other countries. Its a little like I stated above. In this country the approach is to prevent danger. In other places they are happy to control danger. The extent of that control being somewhat dubious from the descriptions above and my observations in some countries.
     
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  15. Aah, Southern European wiring :). Northern stuff - the Germans and Scandinavians, etc - is a lot more sensible, and a bloody sight more straightforward than UK regs. We’re obsessed.
     
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    I better be careful washing up the slow cooker tonight :D
     
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  17. In Greece, there’d just be a bit of cable coming out the wall with a bit of terminal block on it :thumbsup:
     
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  18. or it might become a quick cooker!
     
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  19. Then you stuff a couple of matches in the terminal block to keep the wires in the terminals :rolleyes:
     
  20. I remember poking a bare flex behind a plug in a socket when I didn’t have a plug :D
     
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