1978 Kombi Type 2

Discussion in 'Restorations' started by Tim Murphy, Apr 14, 2023.

  1. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    I’ve got some of both I’ll photo side by side for you later
     
  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Does the engine have the fan housing fitted? Any pics? That may also be unsuitable...
     
  3. It does have the fan housing fitted, and the engine is running. The only items not fitted are the heater blower and the alternator. I drove the van off the trailer and into the yard. DSCF5203.JPG DSCF5204.JPG
     
  4. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    Your engine bay sides have been butchered to partly make it fit, the standard latebay tins are much narrower overall than the T25.
    You don’t seem to have an alternator fitted and again that’s a T25 fan housing with no provision for the alternator bracket arrangement to get it in the correct place!
    I haven’t got as many tins as I thought but here’s the fronts over the bell housing to compare width, the T25 one also has the top edge flanged over for a different engine foam/ rubber seal set up.

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  5. I was just talking to the previous owner who disassembled the engine when he re moved it from the kombi.
    He said all the tinware I have was removed from the engine, so it definitely fits it.

    Question is. Is it easier to adapt T25 tinware to the Cu engine as well as fit to the bay. Or is it easier to adapt CU tinware to fit the bay instead. Thanks, any advice would be well appreciated.
     
  6. Thanks foor the help guys, much appreciated.

    If its a question of fabricating a suitable bracket, thats not going to be an issue as I am well used to fabricating bits and bobs and panels for classic vw,s. If I can buy the necessary part, then all the better. I see a bracket connected for the alternator but cable tied to the moustache bar.
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Tim, there's something here you're not understanding I think. You don't need to adapt that tin to fit the engine, it will fit. The thing is, the whole thing then won't fit the bay window properly because it was bodged in. You need to decide what your end goal is.
    Here's a whole T25 one
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    Here's a whole bay window one.
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    Under the gubbins it's the same engine as far as we care. But using the T25 alternator set up for example requires hacking a hole in the bus and chopping a corner off the alternator. Is that how you picture your engine bay?

    Edit : Just seen they already massacred your engine bay to fit the alternator in.
     
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  8. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    If it was me I’d take the engine out, repair the engine bay sides with the available from usual suppliers parts.
    Try and get a look at an unmolested latebay engine bay to see what yours is missing!
    Doesn’t matter if it’s got type1 or type4 engine in it the engine bay is the same.
    They have a lip all the way round to match up with the tin wear for the foam seal to locate too.

    Ideally you need all the bay tinware for a type4 engine including fan housing,alternator brackets and heat exchangers!

    You might be able to make T25 stuff work but it’ll be a bodge.

    Your choice
     
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  9. What I'm not understanding is exactly what I have , purely because I dont have the manual at the moment to identify both the engine and bits. You guys are very familiar with these, thats why Im here, to learn what I.ve got.

    Looking at those pics of the 2 types of engines, I can now see that I have a mixture of both in some way, shape , or form on my bus. Now that I have that info from this post, now I can make an informed decision on the best route to go.

    My endgoal is a good mechanical bus, with a perfect engine, cost is not an issue for me even up to buying a new one. I got the rust free bus at the right price, so I can splurge.

    I wont be compounding the historic bodges, with new ones of my own, thats why I came to the latebay.com for expert advice.
    Thanks
     
  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The engine and all the tinware are T25, not a mixture. Your engine bay has been chopped to fit it in your bay.
    I would do as Flakey suggests, repair the engine bay and dress up the core engine in proper bay parts.
    Then buy some Dellortos, :D
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  11. Sounds like the plan I'm looking for:thumbsup:
     
  12. Is this what the inside right hand side should look like?? 624776.jpg
     
  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Yep. With the 1600 (Type-1 engine) AND fuel injection type-4, there would be an air filter stand approx under the big round hole, but type-4 dual carb engines (yours) had the air filter mounted over the centre of the engine so didn't have one.

    The wavy skirt bit has been removed from yours as you see. You can buy that panel.
     
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  14. Funny, my air filter hangs down from overhead the coil on the shroud. Its a massive cylindrical cylinder about 12" long and 6" diameter housing a paper air filter. You can just see the over head bracket on the left of the pic in post 263
     
  15. You guys that would know at a glance, is this what I.m looking for. Thanks. 2B003FE8-1579-49AB-8A7E-0DEB76E6011D.jpeg
     
  16. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    Looks very much like it yes, what’s the description say?
     
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  17. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    :thumbsup:
     
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  18. Says it was off a 72 cross over. But its not for sale, just for info.....damn.

    But not to worry I know a few guys with dozens of bay windows, and there is a big national aircooled 3 day show in july next door to me, so I,m fairly confident I will pick up what I need.
     
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  19. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    Just remember type4 tins for late bay bus
     
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