009 Distributer on a 1641 type 1

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by MorkC68, Sep 10, 2014.

  1. I hate to ask a stupid question & apologise in advance as im sure you know what you are doing.. are you sure you have TDC on the compression stroke??
     
  2. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    that's a valid point Zed - we have set them as follows, looking in through the back:

    #1 is right hand side, ~5 oclock position
    90 degrees to the left we have #4
    #3 is forward left ~ 11 oclock
    #2 is forward right ~ 1 oclock

    these are all connected to the respective plugs (we have checked and double checked)

    we did wonder this but time ran out on us earlier - which do we swap, say 1 and 3 & see what happens followed by 2 and 4?

    Thanks for replying Steve, much appreciated!
     
  3. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    yes, checked and double checked - we are certain of this
     
  4. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Your symptoms suggest incorrect firing order and it's easy (I should know!) to describe correctly as you have done, yet still plug 'em in wrong. :)

    I usually do 1 and 2 the wrong way.
     
  5. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Ill go check sunday & report back! I think Ill remove all plug leads & go back to scratch! Ill let you know what we find :)
     
  6. Definitely sounds like leads in the wrong order
    Brain working slowly but...The firing order is 1-4-3-2
    looking in the engine bay, 1 is front (of bus) right, 2 is back right, 3 is front left, 4 is back left.

    Has the engine run before, is the dizzy drive in correctly..are the valves closing properly?
     
  7. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    yes the engine has run before - we had a 32/36 carb fitted but the adjusting screws meant you had to remove the carb each time you wanted to adjust it..because the bus is under resto, we had not had it tuned properly but the engine ran okay

    dizzy drive, we are certain its in right as the dizzy goes all the way down and appears to engage properly

    valves open and close as they should, we have checked this as we did the gaps

    this is how we set the firing order but first priority is to triple check!

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  8. ^this is a poss. Are you on compression or exhaust? Both no 1 valves shut?
     
  9. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Im certain we had it in the correct spot, both valves shut properly (we rotated the crank manually a few times to get a feel for the correct pot)
     
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  10. Still no joy?
    not familiar with icts, but you may have a spigot or two sticking out the side of the carb (s) for vac take off or manifold for servo....if left unplugged it will run like a sack of sh*t
     
  11. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Skutterbob asked the same question..I can confirm both carbs have got these plugged okay :thumbsup:
     
  12. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    You'd barely notice the difference anyway, it wouldn't be popping and banging.
     
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  13. Is it spitting back through the carb(s)? If yes, almost certainly a sign that your ignition timing is well out of sync with the carbs.
     
  14. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Yes it certainly is Snotty, down the balancer pipe too


    Thanks everyone for replying, I appreciate all the pointers so far! :thumbsup:
     
  15. Sorry, I meant valves rather thsn carbs!
     
  16. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    I guess it is blowing back past the valves, you can see the flame coming out the carb top (no air filter fitted)
     
  17. Implies an inlet valve is still open when the spark ignites the mixture, mebbe?
     
  18. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    that's next weeks investigation!! We are taking a weekend break :lol: return with fresh minds :)
     
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  20. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Thanks Skutterbob, that appears to be the general consensus, we're gonna do a quick lead swap Sunday lunchtime!
     

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