Why not to fit horse shoe plates

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by lhu1281, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. I have a set to go on mine, but have started to think against lowering and staying stock:thinking:
     
  2. Ouch!
     
  3. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I drove through sunny Stafford on Sunday and your bus has been painted a shade of invisible....:eek:
     
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  4. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Never liked them either, I had a pair, offered them up, then thought better of it.

    I don't post on EB, but I note there are some posters decrying upside down ball joints which they claim are not designed to be fitted this way. They are now the ones (Trikky) talking from their uneducated arseholes. Upside down ball joints are DESIGNED to be fitted like this and common on some makes of cars from new. Forums eh? Always best to do your engineering research somewhere else I think. :)

    My guess from the state of the broken bolts is that they were either loose or over-tightened. This is why torque settings are given in your manual, not just for fun. With a long bar I could shear those bolts from new if I tried hard enough. That's what I would say have happened, after reading it just collapsed on his drive.

    A good time to repeat my mantra - lowering a vehicle is not a bolt on fashion accessory however the purveyors of the bits like to advertise them.
     
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  5. It's in hiding, should be getting back on it next month
     
  6. I've never seen the point of them... I think they are for people who are afraid of undoing the torsion bars and rotating the splines :lol:
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Changed my mind and posted on "there". Such a lot of rubbish being posted it got me goat. :lol:
     
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  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Exactly this, a point I've made myself in the past. :thumbsup:
    Plus you're a nit if you're doing this without taking advantage of the perfect opportunity to replace the donuts at which point all you have to do is put the springplates on a different spline. :rolleyes:
     
  9. From my understanding and that is little one bolt sheering wouldn't have made the wheel drop at least 3 would of had to have snapped to do this?
     
  10. Those bolts have to be done up to 80/90ft/lbs... so there is something going on if one has bust

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    You're right... either 3 or all 4 bolts must've broken
     
  11. Still don't like them, and technically not MOT compliant...
     
  12. So where is the comment coming from it's designed to fit 4 not 2 bolts as the hub still is bolting on to 4??
     
  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Over-tightened, or stuggled to get them out which was perhaps when they were weakened, then re-used them. Tut-tut. I've sheared caliper bolts with 18" bar try to get them out.
     
  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I only see 2 in the second picture? Pretty sure the TH ones I had and didn't fit only used 4 bolts and they don't provide new bolts with them.
     
  15. I've stripped the thread on the long ones before... They get rust in the thread, and it just chews them up :eek:
     
  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Cast threads are like rock!
     
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    stock torsion setting and 2 inch drop.....why fit anything else if you want to gain an actual benefit from lowering, rather than aesthetics?
     

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