What's happened to petrol?

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Pony, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. Just over filled one of the works mowers and when wiping up the ptint on the warning stickers came off and the paintwork has been cut through. This is the first fresh can of petrol since last autumn. Not had this before. Has there been any changes in the last 6 months?
     
  2. I think the ethanol content has increased, could be wrong though :)
     
  3. it's bad isnt it! My chainsaw, new last year is looking like it's going to need a new priming bulb soon as the rubber's already started to go a bit cracked.
     
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  4. so will it strip paint if any drips onto paint after filling cars???
     
  5. The paint strippings what I m concerned about. The ethanol content has been increased but I m not sure when and if this was the cause
     
  6. Ethanol content has increased and will increase further next year, originally 5% I believe this has now been raised 10% and will be 13% in 2014.
    Whether this is the source of your problem is a different matter.
    We have had hell's own problems with pump unleaded eating it's way through our fuel lines on the race bikes, we now run pure Avgas. (shhhh! don't tell anyone)
    The paint question is interesting but my experience is MAYBE, it depends on what your vehicle is painted with, somebody with better chemical knowledge than me may be able to answer that.
     
  7. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

    I remember reading something on this last year and the reason but can't remember what it was.
     
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  8. im not sure thats really very factual or helpful ....:D
     
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  9. Tuesday wildchild

    Tuesday wildchild I'm a circle!

    It is a FACT I do remember reading something but have forgotten the info I read. :D
     
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  10. Nurse! Pills for Wildchild. :)
     
  11. Think it starts this January but not all locations?
    Its their way of being environmentally friendly.
    They teach monkeys in the Amazon to drink cheap booze, collect their urine then process it over here blending it carefully with petrol (or Aldi wine).
    They can then claim to helping the environment by reducing our carbon emmisions and safeguarding the monkey community! Monkies flourish by getting p@$$ed! Nowt on the jungle telly so only 1 thing left to do!
    Very clever these oil companies!
     
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  12. Remember that the decent petrol, eg. optimax etc... Won't have the ethanol added... I know its a waste running your van on super 99 oct fuel when it will officially run on old style 2star... But at least you will be getting your full fill or petrol and not 10% vodka!
     
  13. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Never mind the paint ( although that is bad enough ) what about the rubber hoses ?
     
  14. Check out "Fuel line Mayhem" thread, goes into some detail
     
  15. There was an interesting article on this in The Sunday Times recently. I'd try and link but it'll be behind their paywall. Someone smarter than me may be able to...
     
  16. If you have modern rubber you will be fine , if upu have ye olde worlde rubber I think it makes it brittle?
    I repeat Mexican and Brazilian aircooled engines have run on booze only for years!
     
  17. That's mildly re-assuring ;)
     
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  18. I've got a Brazilian engine, but I dont think I have Brazilian fuel pipes.
    This is what the Sunday Times Driving article said: .

    As the owner of a 70-year-old Second World War Jeep I am worried about the introduction of E10 petrol later this year. Can you tell me, and other classic car drivers, whether this is likely to be a problem?

    CS, Eastbourne

    A. Standard unleaded 95-octane petrol has contained up to 5% ethanol since 2008, but E10 will be a separate grade containing 10% ethanol. The EU has set targets for its introduction because ethanol is a “green” fuel, being in effect carbon-neutral.

    In this higher concentration, the ethanol can corrode some of the components of the fuel systems on older vehicles, such as rubber seals and fibreglass fuel tanks. And because ethanol absorbs water more readily than petrol, it can also attack the metal used in some older fuel pipes, tanks and carburettors.

    It is not just classic cars that should avoid E10 fuel but also some more modern cars built before 2000. Information on which cars are affected will become available before E10 goes on sale later this year (the motor industry is currently setting up a dedicated E10 website).

    Although E10 has been sold on forecourts in France and Germany for some time, petrol stations in Britain have been able to sell it only since March this year. First deliveries are not expected to arrive on forecourts until, at the very earliest, this summer.

    Even then, E10 can be sold only from a clearly labelled pump, no one is obliged to sell it and ordinary unleaded petrol will continue to be available, especially as many cars will rely on it for years to come. Even if standard unleaded petrol were phased out at some point in the future, the “premium” fuels such as BP Ultimate and Shell V-Power would continue to contain no ethanol.
     
  19. Hmmm is there a coating available for the inside of fuel tanks that isnt effected by ethanol in higher concentrations
    Im thinking if there is it might be a good idea to use it whilst my tanks out to future proof it
     

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