Type 4 race engine build, all are welcome

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Joker, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. Both :lol:

    With a type 4 you generally get more toque than BHP, so it's all good :D
     
  2. That is so true!!

    When I next hit the track, I want to be able to do 15s... changing the box is a big step in achieving this, but I'll be reworking my heads, and possibly look at adding some nitrous or a turbo :thumbsup:
     
  3. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    I'm the one in the wrong, I'm sorry.

    I've never actually build an engine, I'll watch this thread and learn a few things.

    If and when I do build one I'd go VW, if only to save getting wet feet!
     
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  4. I'd be more inclined to do a balls out scooby...VWs are sh*t:D

    or go the route Lhu's persuing....
     
  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I have, but just a simple standard 1600 for a whole one where I learnt that cleanliness is god. Not a chance I can do that in a workshop full of slightly magnetic ground steel filings so I limit it to fairly minor stuff and do it in the paint booth in another building.

    But like a lot of peopleI'd like to build one whopper and got a large chunk of a T4 as a base sitting in the workshop. I tipped a box of assorted nuts and bolts into the oil breather hole so it'll have to come apart. It's a 1700 with knacked heads so a bit limited and it just sits there. :lol:
     
  6. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    Stop it you!
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    There is also this perfectly sensible viewpoint, but I don't think I'd want to try steering such a beast of a T2 in a straight line!
     
  8. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    As the Americans say, 'there's no substitute for cubic inches'
     
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  9. That's because your steering is rubbish!! :lol:
     
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  10. the cost per horse power
    with vw aircooled engines seems very high....:(
     
  11. "Theres no replacement for displacement!!"":chewie:
     
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  12. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    It certainly is.
     
  13. @Moons, rules as follows. The difference between the 2 is that BWA insist on an air cooled flat flour engine whereas USB will allow transplants. Both are looking for a sub 18 second quarter as timed on the strip, so you've got a reaction time in there as well.

    http://www.ultimatestreetbays.co.uk/rules.html

    http://www.buseswithattitude.co.uk/index.php/bwa_rules

    As others have said, it's not just about winning, it's about making something as unlikely as a van go fast, especially if you do it with the original motor layout. I hope to see what kind of time I can do at some point and am also likely to mod it further in the future. Might even give the van a run around Blyton on a track day my mate runs, if they'll let me on!
     
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  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    True. Anyone want to buy a 1700 with knackered heads? (cracked with receding valve seats so not any use for repair). It was running just fine apart from the valve seats, but opportunity of a rebuilt 2L came in at barely more than a pair of heads at the time believe it or not so there it sits. Assorted nuts and bolts (inside the case) come free but you'd want to strip it anyway. It's a genuine engine from a bus, not a pile of completely knacked out poo as far as I can tell and from it's history. No ancilliares or tin or even flywheel. First £100 takes it.
     
  15. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    BWA are split screens only Owen, they daren't let us guys in, they fear we will show them up with our bays ;)
     
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  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Perhaps a similar Late Bays only club needs starting.
     
  17. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    now we're talking!
     
  18. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    A bit off topic, Peugeot RCZ Sport thing has 260bhp plus from a 1.6....that's immense power on street fuel and mass produced engine.

    What sort of power would a normally aspirated air cooled engine make, that would be deemed good?

    Seem to recall anything over 100bhp per litre normally aspirated is immense.
     
  19. You're missing the point...
    :)
     
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  20. ;)
     

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