Sudden judder

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by 3901mick, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. Van is 2 litre CJ engine twin solex carbs.

    While driving it may judder as if someone is turning the ignition off and on, sometimes a few times rapidly, sometimes it dies for a second or so.

    I thought maybe ignition switch, it was new but it came in some parts so don't know brand, I ran a wire from + on battery to the coil and it didn't change anything so presume, points, condenser or coil. None are very old.
     
  2. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    If it has points check the gap.
    also give all ignition wires a firm tug to see if any are loose. Check in the engine bay after dark for sparkly blue sparks from leads. Check rotor arm is good..swap it. Could be

    On my T1 the last fault was basically a choke wire shorting that cut the ignition for a moment.
     
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  3. Sticking choke ?


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  4. Cheers @mikedjames i am going to swap to electronic distributor, also ordered new points and condenser that I will fit first but carry in van. HT leads are newish and decent ones. Its not a missfire its an off lol
     
  5. No, pretty certain its low voltage ignition side. Twin carbs so if one was stuck it wouldn't kill it instantly.
     
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  6. Dubs

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    I had a set of points do that once.. took ages to track it down as they were new, so didn't think it would be that... it was a partial break in the wire that connects to the condenser.
     
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  7. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    Coil
     
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  8. I did wonder on both, Ive sadly got about 7 coils here so will try one, also the points and condensor ,will test it them then will carry as a complete spare dizzy.
     
  9. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    I was tidying up the workshop and looking for something the other day, started putting all the coils I found on one shelf, I've got 7 as well :thumbsup:
     
  10. I will count tomorrow I might have more :)
     
  11. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    I didn't count the 4 on my vehicles :p
     
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  12. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    Well i'am going to look on my bench ...and i think you will find i have got considerable more coils than you .;)
     
  13. Flakey

    Flakey Supporter

    Just remembered the Honda has one per cylinder so there's 4 more :theforce:
     
  14. on my mgb, the points and condenser ignition gave up with a jolt and misfiring last week. It was a repeat of the same back in the summer. It turns out the repro condensers and points don't last five minutes. could they be Chinese by any chance?

    so out with the distributor, chuck points and condenser, fit new ones yet again, set points gap, put distributor back and the engine runs perfect.
     
  15. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    RIGHT Blue gloves now ...and i will be going back ...king years .
     
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  16. How did you get on with this?
     
  17. Not looked yet, might get a chance tomorrow, subject to it lashing down
     
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  18. I bought a new Accuspark Dissy electronic ignition, as a Guinea pig as its complete there can be no didnt use the paste bla bla.

    My J and R CV joints have done 800 miles + 6 months still looking good, £13.99 each complete joint. the JK ones rotted on the shaft.

    I like to test cheap things lol
     
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  19. I have fitted new dizzy complete, timing at 28 degrees when revved with vacuum disconnected and plugged, . But it drops down to 2 degrees when ticking over. Bit slow isn't it ? I predict a flat spot ! If I up it at tickover it will be too high at the upper end !!!

    Note the choke wire has now been tightened

     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2017
  20. Dubs

    Dubs Sponsor supporter extraordinaire

    I would time it at 30 Max advance and not worry too much about the idle timing. Them dissys are a bit inconsistent.. adjust the idle speed if needed.
     
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