Mot exemption question.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Soggz, Dec 18, 2018.

  1. As long as the structural stuff is ok and the normal things like brakes, tyres, etc you can work on the crusty bits as time and funds allows. If it's over 40 years old the law has changed and it doesn't require an mot.
     
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  2. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    As I thought.
     
  3. Bear in mind if you get your van mot tested and it fails, you won't be able to drive it legally except drive it to an mot test station. You could hedge your bets and pay your tester to check the van and tell you what needs doing by priority. An mot fail will show on the vehicles mot test history.
     
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  4. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Ok,so now then. The mot ran out 2 years ago when it was parked up. So you are telling me that if it fails an mot,I can't drive it,but it didn't need one in the first place? I'm just better off then,finding out the check points list and doing it myself? Like I said...it's perfectly safe,just rusty in places IF I needed a mot,but perfectly OK to drive? I wouldn't drive it , if I didn't trust it not to be ok...
     
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  5. If your not too sure you could always get a trusted independent geezer to do a pre mot check type of thing, go and talk to him/her/it and i'm sure they will be obliging. Don't forget a lot of type 2's and beetles as well can look like a bag of sh1te but be sound as a pound.
     
  6. Dub and Dubber

    Dub and Dubber Supporter

    ... and lots that look sound as a pound turn out to be a bag of sh1te.
    Not relevant I know but in the spirit of "balanced reporting" .......
     
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  7. It is easy to bemoan the new regulations but, I prefer the idea that the vast majority of heritage vehicle owners have genuine desire to keep their vehicles in tip top condition regardless of what bit of paper might relate to the vehicle itself. If I have a problem I don't think will it pass the MOT or not I think I'll get it fixed or as is usually the case I fix it myself. I would have to really let mine go to get to the stage that it fails and that's not going to happen after spending 5 years restoring it!

    Anyway, I see the new regs as £50 to spend on keeping it looking good rather than a reasonably pointless bit of paper:)
     
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  8. Rubbish! it still has to be Structurally sound regardless weather it requires a MOT or not.
    Something to point out is its got more holes then a dart board.

    At least is got provenance (This Thread) we all know exactly how it is.
     
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  9. MOT Fail.
     
  10. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Fact is an MOT is £45.
    If you think it’d fail an MOT, it’s not roadworthy. If it’s not roadworthy, it’s not allowed on the road.
    MOT exemption is bloody stupid imho but it’s not the Armageddon some people will have you believe.
     
  11. @Baysearcher What it has a MOT:eek: When 10 years ago?:eek: How:eek: Why:eek:

    Suppose it is Panto season:D
     
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  12. As long as the structural stuff is ok and the normal things like brakes, tyres, etc you can work on the crusty bits as time and funds allows. If it's over 40 years old the law has changed and it doesn't require an mot.its mot exempt if you tick the box to say it is , because its 40 , when you declare it mot exempt ,you ve taken sole charge of roadworthyness and the buck will stop with you , or you can mot it , you choose ,
     
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  13. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    Eh?
     
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  14. Soggz

    Soggz Supporter

    Yeah, I know...but I can weld that up...
     
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  15. redoxide

    redoxide Guest

    Its not really scaremongering or pontificating its a fact . The MOT exemption does not exempt you from con and use regs ... ? if you use a piece of crap on the road regardless of its age or MOT exemption status it still has to be roadworthy.. and con and use trumps the MOT .. just that folk seem to think MOT exemption is an excuse to put a pile of Marmite on the road and your good.. fact is your not ..
     
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  16. then why ask , you no its rotten it needs work , would it pass an mot NO .so you answered your own question
     
  17. redoxide

    redoxide Guest

    brake light staying on is an immediate prohibition .. its deemed to be a serious defect.. not a minor issue
     
  18. duck tape over raw edges will never pass a proper mot in ireland ,. probally any where but england , what if ye knock a wain down and it slices its self on the duck tape raw edges , do ye think the police or insurance will stand over it , or is this a taste of what brexits will bring , gb bluffing every one
     
  19. redoxide

    redoxide Guest

    YES you are correct it is MOT exempt, BUT MOT exemption still requires you to maintain the vehicle in roadworthy condition which means that you have to ensure you don't fall foul of con and use regs which you are most definitely NOT exempt from .. Con and Use regs actually apply 365 days of the year as and when the vehicle is being used on the road.. The MOT was in effect valid for a year but to pass the test the vehicle needed to be right on the day of the test.

    The following day if a light went out it still had an mot but you could be busted for having a light out ..

    Well nothing has changed with the latter , If you get stopped with a defect you cant tell the copper its OK because you are MOT exempt , hopefully they will smile politely and inform you . you still have to comply FULLY with construction and use regulations relevant to the year of the vehicle .

    The rust on those pics is an MOT fail as it extends to the front X member and chassis member .. its technically structural and under con and use regs is an offence regardless of its MOT status


    Its pretty obvious that people dont understand this reading some of the comments especially those highlighted in red.. Its doesnt need an mot, BIG DEAL its still not roadworthy .. and if its used on the road its an offence.

    MOT exemption was not a licence to drive a piece of Marmite on the road.

    OH and just be clear, a roadside exam isnt limited to MOT standards. An MOT tested cant pry at your inner / outer sills or scrape sealer from joins but the roadside tester can, so that patch tacked on and sealed over is a con and use offence, even though it might have passed the MOT due to its "clever" disguise .. the road side examiner is not concerned with the niceties of the MOT. If they suspect its bodged they are fine to uncover that bodge .. and condem the vehicle..

    Im not saying this because Im scaremongering, Im saying it ithe hope folk understand fully what their responsibilities are with regards the MOT exemptions..

    someone mentioned that its a fat chance of a tug... well i truth at this point in time it probably is since the rolling MOT exemption is fairly recent .. But given time getting MOT exempt vehicles off the road will be like shooting fish in a barrel..

    Roadside checks at Vosa checkpoints wont be purely for wagons. Vehicle examiners and the Police are numbers driven, generate stats or die.. So it always follows that you pick off the easy prey first.. If a classic is cruising down the queens highway in the very near future that MOT exemption will be a 100% legitimate excuse to pull that vehicle for a roadside check.

    When stats show that a high % of classics are failing roadside exams and remember im taking stats in % terms, if 10 classics are stopped on the way to busfest, and 9 display defects thats not 9 out of 10 as a number, thats a 99% fail rate ..

    seriously do you think your getting something for nothing ?

    I dont do it any more but roadside exams were part of my job.. we would pull into council car parks during the evening, round up half a dozen corsas/ subarus/ random dads cars and carry out a simple cursory check, Failure rates were high, if they were bad enough we would dig deeper and many were trailered home or impounded... Corsas with red tops still running as 13oos and noID on the engine block tsk tsk.. Dads car pounded around the car park by sonny doing rolling burnouts, dad gets tugged with bald tyres , 3 points £100 fine and an immediate prohibition..

    Do you think they wont target MOT exempt vehicles in the future....Of course they will its easy revenue.. and simple to achieve.. set up a checkpoint close to an event .. If your well maintained and roadworthy ( that doesnt mean your 100% squeeky ) then your probably gonna be good to go.. but if your bodged you might have a problem in future. just saying..
     
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  20. redoxide

    redoxide Guest

    If the pics of the underside of the step are from your van then its not road worthy with these rust issues but its your licence and your problem if you get a tug..
     

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