In or Out

VZi. The 'In' vote is winning but it's a different demographic over there. I think that's the word.

 

All mouth until the chips are down then it's stick with what you know. VZi isn't what it was...

 

I don't really care, as long as I can drive my german car, powered by oil from the Gulf, eat authentic italian, spanish, chinese, vietnamese, indian, bangladeshi, food, buy my fags cheaper at the Polish shop, get welding done by the ukranian guy who runs the garage, buy baguettes and cheese from the French deli , type on this laptop made by Koreans, drink Czech bier, brazilian coffee, tea from Assam watch a TV made in Japan, listen to great music from around the globe and bask in my britishness

 

In:

Out:


You decide.

 

Out - my mum had an allergro, it was ace.

 

I dont like to return to matters but Tesco have opted not to sign Cameron's supporting the In campaign. They have said its not for us to tell our customers what to do. I did read your bit on the working time directive and minimum wage and that Tesco's could make people work for less, my personal view is that if someone is working in Tesco at the living wage of £7.20 for 40 hours a week, then if you add back the 15 free hours you say Tesco will make them do that effectively reduces the hourly rate by 27% to £5.24. Now if I was working in Tesco and they did that to me and another local business was still paying the living wage I'd hand in my notice and go elsewhere. I think any business (or Government) who tried to reduce their employees wages would have a very demotivated workforce. On balance I can't see any merit in an argument that out of the EU we would throw away minimum/living wage legislation.

I've just been reading an article written by Tim Martin of Wetherspoon.

Wetherspoon founder Tim Martin has argued that key laws are best made by national parliaments, not by the non-democratic EU. In an article for the in-house Wetherspoon News magazine, he said: “Say what you like about the euro, but it is certainly not democratic. It involves taking some of the most important economic powers of a government, the ability to set interest rates and a budget (the central controls of any economy) and transferring them to unelected apparatchiks in Europe. .... It makes no sense, in the UK, for these sensitive issues to be decided on by faceless bureaucrats in Brussels, when we’re just as capable of deciding for ourselves – after all, Americans, Australians and Singaporeans (among many others) have managed to do so by themselves. Clearly, if the UK decides to leave the EU, it would be in the economic and other interests of this country and our European neighbours to have friendly relations, strong business links, including free trade, and, I believe, free movement of labour. Norway and Switzerland, for example, two of the richest and most successful countries in the world, are not in the EU, but EU countries have an open trading relationship with them, and citizens from both of those countries can live and work in the UK, needing only a passport or identity card.

Instead of the Allegro can I have

 

How many of the FTSE companies have supported the OUT campaign in writing? OUT seem to be making a lot of noise that only a third of these companies have written to support IN, but seem to be assuming that means the other two thirds support OUT, which isn't the case.

 

You can only have either if you're willing to go back to a nationalised car industry. So probably not.

 

I like them too. But German cars are better.

 

Sorry, I get what you mean now, when I said 'work extra 15 hours for free' I meant no overtime, they would of course get paid the 15 hours, we're talking about leaving the EU not going Dickensian. Theres just a huge cost saving in employing 1 person to work 60 hours than 2 to work 30 each, stamp duty, employer tax, training, uniform etc,

 

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There's a bigger saving in limiting hours to 15 per week - no employers NI.

 

No you are quite right it doesn't mean that, but I was reading an article this morning about those FTSE 100 companies who had signed to support the OUT campaign, many are multinational companies who have vested interests or they are headed up by a non UK national.

I dont know about overtime, since 1987 I've been in jobs where you didn't get paid overtime. I don't know what Tesco do, I suspect they have plenty of employees to spread the hours about.

 

I worked there in the 90's when they were coining it in, they always wanted you to do overtime but said there was a ban on payment and you could have the time back, I use to insist on time and a half back, miserable gits they were.

 

we,ll end up driving these -nissan won,t leave mackem land

 

A lot of us have been waiting for a referendum on the E.U for a very long time, this is gonna probably be a once in a lifetime vote and is one of the most important things we have ever done. There are gonna be opinions from all sides and you arnt gonna agree with a lot but I don't think there has been any bickering from what I can read.

 

Do you need an I pad or an I phone to do proper I bickering.

 

Tesco's and other large retailers, employing large numbers of staff have been routinely paying their employees less than a living wage as a matter of course. This means that those employees are directly subsidized by the Taxpayer in the form of working tax credits and other benefits..profits translate into dividends for wealthy shareholders and huge salaries and bonuses for CEOs. The government has allowed this practice to continue unchecked...no wonder these companies wish to see the status quo remain.

Approximately £8bn of benefits goes to the unemployed, while an estimated £76bn goes toward benefits for those in low paid jobs...it's a massive hidden state subsidy for Tesco's and their ilk...I'll leave you to decide whether this is fair or not

 

isn,t that changing now ? with the living wage?