I think you've hit the nail on the head there. All this carp about keeping negotiating position secret because it would compromise discussions with the EU, it crosses my mind that they think if they can do that, whatever the outcome, they can just say "that's what we were aiming for in the first place". Reminds me of Cameron's "secret" discussions with Donald Tusk over renegotiating the UK's position in the EU. He did a poor job and hoped that no-one would notice. Well, they did.
This is nothing new as far as Nissan is concerned, every now and then (probably when their latest subsidy or grant is running out) they do a bit of sabre rattling about moving production elsewhere. Since its so important to the local economy (as not everyone wants to work in call centres which seems to the next biggest source of employment) the government comes up with some way to placate them - this is just Nissan seizing the opportunity (again)
Exactly. The Brexit 'great' deal will be put to Parliament after negotiation, possibly rejected and then we just get chucked out with no deal. Like it or not, the parameters are fixed by the EU. The Swiss have found this out and are having to backtrack on their immigration referendum because the EU are going to kick them out of the single market if they stop free movement. We broadly know the options and these should be debated and decided in advance.
It's a good example of why, when stuck to properly, a parliamentary democracy works. The Executive (the Government) wants to be in charge. In reality, Parliament is in charge, and the Government is only able to do what it likes because there are more of them than anyone else in Parliament. But the price is that they have to do what they're doing under the scrutiny of Parliament. Offering a vote to Parliament after a deal is struck is (1) insulting to Parliament and (2) a devious political trick. If Parliament says yes to the deal, the Government gets what it wants, if it says no, the spindoctors in the media go to work and make out that Parliament is obstructive and damaging to the country. Effective Parliamentary scrutiny happens at this stage now - not one year and 364 days after Article 50 with a Hobson's Choice.
But must make anything that is made in the UK more able to compete with imports. One could say an over valued pound has made that difficult. It must also open a few areas for UK labour go compete where cheap imports and outsourced labour have made it impossible. Just musing, not interested in an argument, glass half full and all that. I think you two above wouldn't be happy with anything less than a total crash, so determined you are to be proved right.
If you're referring to me, then you're wrong. Most people aren't interested in this aspect of things, but there are some important constitutional issues at stake here. Following constitutional rules is essential for maintaining parliamentary democracy and avoiding the thin end of a dictatorial wedge. So be it, we are exiting the EU, but we do it according to the rules of our constitution, otherwise it sets a precedent for the Government to act as it likes and without scrutiny. With the right wing of the Conservative Government interpreting the outcome of the referendum in line with their own 1950's free-market wet dream, Parliamentary scrutiny is essential. Or didn't people really vote Leave to return control to the supreme law-making body in the UK, which is Parliament?
I don't approve of parliamentary dictatorship democracy. It's what let's politicians do as they like once elected.
In the past, it hasn't worked and this time looks the same so far. Growth last quarter was all services, not manufacturing. Basic prices for materials are international, so manufacturing costs go up when the £ goes down. You get a nice short term bonus on existing contracts (unless you fixed the currency!) But after that, all the stuff you buy goes up. What is a cost saving is wages - everyone here has just taken a 15 - 20% wage cut, so instead of competing on efficiency and products, we've been demoted to a lower wage economy.
What the public needs most of all is many more chances to kick Westminster's political arse. Middle class knit picking over the economy is missing the whole point for a mahoosive section of the population who are prepared to take the hit. Isn't that right @WoodyLubber .
I'm not quite sure why you tagged me Zed but what I do think is we need change, I can't understand people wanting a parliamentary debate on the terms of Brexit , We had a Referendum after many years of it being ignored and nobody trusts their MP's any more, most of them are doing it for themselves and don't represent the views of their own constituency,that was proven by the referendum result and lots of them will lose their seats, Why let them decide what we want, they just want to stall anything that doesn't suit them, We need a recall option for MP's who don't represent their voters views and we need Proportional Representation for starters
I tagged you because I believed you would agree that the economy, to a large amount of people (who mostly voted out) is irrelevant. This is not because they are stupid, it's because the value "something else" as more important. They didn't fail to understand, they made a judgement.
This^^^^. We took advantage of this as there was a (short lived) spike in prices. Bought 3000 tonnes of wheat.
Im confused about the recent news on the parliamentary vote but who's for 4% inflation by the middle of next year. That's the prediction and of course it will result in an interest rate hike etc. It makes sense that given the pound seems to have found its new level (?) that imports will cost more etc then it will result in a levelling out of prices at the higher level (ie there wont be any deflation after this to bring prices down), So we all need to get used to higher prices for what we buy as a proportion of earnings so a dip in everyone's standard of living. Doesn't sound to bad does it. lets hope the living wage delivers and many aren't thrown into poverty and that benefits and pensions keep up.
Brexit voting Tory MP resigns over 'irreconcilable policy differences'. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37872899
Feel much better after this ... http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/polit...brexit-with-interpretive-dance-20161207118582
Made five people redundant in November (which I kept quiet about). Today it was me. Merry xmas brexiteers!
