working on/maintaining type 4 engines?

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by gavtheoldskater, Feb 24, 2016.

  1. i've just had a quick search and can't find an answer, but if this is an often asked question and someone can post some links i'd appreciate it.

    the vans i had way back all had the earlier engines, but i'm seeing a few in the range i'm looking at with the type 4 engine. what are these like to work on, maintain, and if needs be remove/refurbish compared to the earlier ones that seem a bit more accessible and simple - or is that not the case?

    any advantages/disadvantages either way?
     
  2. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    They seem to be good strong engines. Easy to work on as you should have a hatch.

    You can get them rebuilt but for not many more ££ you can get a scooby.
     
  3. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    And the rest that will be required .
     
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  4. Heavier duty than than the 1600 engines, parts are a little more expensive. 1700's are under powered in that any extra power is used up pushing the extra weight of the engine. Heavier, they weigh more. Easier to get in out as there is no removable rear valance on late bay and the type 4 is lower without he fan on the top. Get an 1800 with a 5 rib gearbox and you've got an exceptional base for upgrades and quite capable engine.
     
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  5. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    I make a point of servicing ours every 3000 miles (which works out to be every year).
    On the '77 westy, its a 2.0, we have changed oil annually, checked the plug gap every other year, changed air filter every other year and adjusted the valve clearances once in four years, they always stay gapped correctly.

    Maybe that's overkill but its allowed the motor to do 120,000 miles.

    Our '73, we have just built a 1915 cc motor, its only done 400 miles since it was rebuilt so I'm not sure what maintenance routine we will follow yet.
     
  6. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Nonsense old chap. I had one for 10 years and it was ace. I'd overtake 2L on motorway hills as they run out of torque where (rpm) a 1700 hits it's peak power. 2l quicker to get to 40, but after that they're dust in the rear view mirror. :) Identical 73 Westy's - 2l had new engine and 6 rib, mine had shagged old engine and correct 3 rib.
     
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  7. Dust in your rear view mirror!? yeah, for a few seconds until the road goes flat and the 1700 3 rib is revving its nuts off and a 2l 6 rib cruises up and past said 1700 whilst getting a run up for the next hill so the 1700 doesn't get a chance to catch up again.
     
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  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Cobblers. :D
     
  9. Make shoes. :p
     
  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Seriously, a much ignored and very nice engine for a step up from 1600. you can buyb a runner for £60, just watch peeps try and sell them! Big valve heads and ******* all over a 1776 t1 for the price of a tank of petrol. it's a funny old world.
     
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  11. Greatest team in the land:D:chewie:






    Sorry, this isn't the football thread is it!
     
  12. I know, my 1700 became the 1911 that would really take any 2l to task, especially with the 3 rib freeway flyer gearbox. Next mission is to make the 2l that's pushing my aircraft hanger along have a bit more grunt. I've just got to sort out the best and most cost effective way to do it.
     
  13. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    I just prefer the type 4 as i am more familiar with it . But i do like the fact that the cooling fan is crank driven rather than belt driven , but i would say they are both as easy to work on once you get used to them .
     
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  14. Having started work on a type 4 engine recently and a 1600 a long time ago..mechanically pretty much the same to work on
    ... just a lot heavier to lump around with all the bits on. Tinware has few more pieces to lose .
    All the bits cost a little bit more when they say "type 4" next to them....
    Not used it yet so can't comment on how they actually go!
     
  15. thanks, very interesting.

    i've since found out its a 1.9, but the chap selling tells me he has never tried to start it (import project bus) or see if it turns over. hmmmm!
     
  16. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Do you mean a 2.0? You can only get 1.7, 1.8 or 2.0 unless its had 96 x 66 pistons and barrels fitted, this will give 1911cc

    What engine code do you have
     
  17. Love my 2ltr type4 twin carbs, phatt boy exhaust , goes like stink (touch on the noisey side though) :D
     
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  18. I thought a Scooby conversion was about £5000 all in?
     
  19. Razzyh

    Razzyh Supporter

    Depends where you go but that sounds reasonable.
     
  20. Just checked the email, maybe it's a typo, he says 1.9.. I did wonder myself.
     

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