We said it would happen!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Poptop2, May 25, 2022.

  1. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    In this very forum, as soon as electric vehicles got a foothold in the market they would shove electricity prices up, and here we are it’s so transparent!
     
  2. Its just the start of it. Next will be huge tax rises on Diesel fuel and then once people have accepted that, then they'll start hiking up petrol until theyve priced it off the road. Coupled with that will be things like the proposed ULEZ extension to the whole of greater London, forcing old vehicles off the road for ever.
     
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  4. If myself, and every other plumber, heating engineer, chippie, builder, roofer, painter and decorator etc is forced to scrap our current vehicles and spend upwards of 50K just to be able to get to work by having to buy new electric vans, can you image what thats going to add to our hourly rates just to cover the costs. If you think its expensive now to get work done, wait till we have to fund an additional 50k of business expenditure every three or four years. Utter madness.
     
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  5. DubCat

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    And while we're at it, stop filling fields with solar panels, that's just funking stupid. Put the panels on every factory and warehouse roof and GROW FOOD IN THE FIELDS.

    Rant over.
     
  6. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Or is it the all powerful fossil fuel companies trying to stall electric vehicle sales?
     
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  7. Absolutely. And start building more nuclear power stations.
     
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  8. Fortunately, this idea seems to be gaining traction (better late than never).
     
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  9. Trouble is the Green nutters will have forced through all the changes well before we've actually got the means to generate the power for them.
     
  10. They’ll find out soon enough when the lights go out.

    Remember, these are people who don’t know how anything in their house works. It’s magic.
     
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  11. Poptop2

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  12. They already have invest in electric companies.

    There was this week an article the gocar.be website, interviewing most CEO's european car manufacturers.
    All said, it will not be possible to acheive EU goal of full EV cars sale for 2035. VW already had to stop EV sales for 2022, because they don't have enough ressources to build more cars. They clearly stated EU will have to go backward with this goal as they need at least 10 more years after 2035 to be able to build EV cars that works, enough infrastructure to load them and a more affordable price range. The most affordable EV now is the Dacia spring at 20.000€ with a max range of 200km. Which is not enough.
    Even Musk said it will be difficult to reach his sale goal due to lack and price of ressource to build batteries.
    Euro 7 emission class now include diesel cars...
     
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  13. matty

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    at least you will get extra long tea breaks in between jobs while you wait for it to charge up
     
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  14. Being a child of the 70s, there was no such thing as Health & Safety. So as a school kid we visited this nuclear powerstation and actually stood on the reactor floor. I remember them giving us iodine tablets and telling us that if the alarm sounded we had to eat them. Thinking about it, it probably explains a lot.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trawsfynydd_nuclear_power_station
     
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    she looks angry rusty ! You better buy an electric transit :D
     
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  17. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    I was always amazed at the pure ugliness of that place I did a lot of climbing around there and always felt sadness for the people that worked there.
     
  18. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    He will have to put his prices up you know ‘ the capitalist swine!
     
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  19. Check out Harrys Farm on Youtube. Ok he's a gentleman farmer but he does say it how it is. Basically he has a large arable farm with a variety of crops and a few animals. He was growing a lot of wheat but sale prices were low until now and his profit margin was poor. His oil seed rape earned him no money until maybe this year. He looked at solar panels but the council planning refused it. He blames DEFRA for most of the problems and their latest madness is paying farmers a large guaranteed income for 15 years growing giant Miscanthus grass for electricity power station burning.

    For a farmer looking for a regular profit, the Miscanthus is very attractive crop that needs little input costs.

    I think its nuts growing grass for burning and maize for ethanol production.

    At this time, we need food and not grass or trees, we can't eat them.

    Sure we would like to have more nature and wilding schemes, but food is what we need right now.
     
  20. Poptop2

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    Massive diversion into a very complex topic there. I speak to farmers daily in my job and some might hold the same opinion as some of your points but others admit to a fair bit of land mismanagement over the years, yes we need food but not at a cost to the environment or wildlife on the scale it has been practiced!
     
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