Too much air...? Idle issues all of a sudden.

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Stedlocks, May 25, 2020.

  1. I've got a type 4 2.0litre, which had a bit of a leak from the rocker cover...replaced all the pushrod seals, and the new Cork gasket, etc, all Good....no leak.
    On investigating, I cleaned out the oil breather, and checked the feed into the carb. The air filter was completely minging and clogged, so I cleaned it for now, and ordered a new one, which is taller, so more air flow if needed?
    Now, its an Empi weber twin choke copy.......i know, I know!
    Its always been fine though, After I fettled it, and the van runs really nice, as long as you start it, and let it warm up before setting off, there are no icing problems, or flat spots, as long as you dont stamp on the loud pedal, but feed the power in.... You know what I mean, standard vw style!
    So the new filter arrived, and it is the taller version, ordered on purpose, because I wanted plenty of air through, so that the breather would be free to do its job......in case the leak was due to crankcase pressure? Sounds like a plan?
    Anyway, its running lovely again, but just started to idle really low and cut out on coming to a halt at lights etc.....
    So, before I mess with anything, could it now be getting too much air, because of the clean/taller filter, and the mixture is now wrong?
    Thanks, sorry for the ramble, happy bank holiday!
     
  2. Doesn’t sound likely. You could run with no air filter at all, and the engine should run much the same.

    More likely that the carb has been set up with a clogged air filter. You’ve changed it for a clean one, so your mixture has gone up the swannee.
     
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  3. Hmm...makes sense. Ill have a fettle!
     
  4. Give everything including the breather a good scrub!
     
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  5. ...then set up your idle mixture and idle speed again.
     
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  6. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    Also check you didnt put dirt in the primary idle jet - unscrew the holder nearest the electric choke and pull out the jet and see if you can see through the 0.4mm ish diameter hole in the end. Then blast with carb cleaner or compressed air holding firmly or watch it fly off..
    . Its a common problem especially if you touched fuel hoses or took the carburettor off.

    This might have been there all along compensating for having the choke on all the time with a dirty air filter.
     
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  7. ...then remove the EMPI twin-choke, and throw it over the fence...
     
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  8. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Exactly, check your Haynes manual - this is part of servicing the engine.
     
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  9. Haynes and Bentley actually recommend that twin-choke carbs are dropped in the canal, but there may not be one handy.
     
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  10. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    These twin choke carbs work in Orange County California within 20 miles of the EMPI HQ. Where it is warm and sunny all year round, Disneyland radiates love and peace, surfers surf, and Venice Beach is full of its beautiful inhabitants.

    Up norf by San Fransisco, buses with EMPI twin chokes are stuttering and dying in the Pacific fog

    Further north, where vampires live apparently, it rains all the time, and busses immobilised by their EMPI twin chokes just sit rotting by the roadside


    In Chicago, a canal became a Superfund site with all the waste dumped in it..


    It needs heroic work to make the 32/36 go on a T4 engine in the British climate.

    You should be able to out perform a Nissan Micra at the lights, and not get bogged down..

    I nearly rammed a Beetle on the way to a Slough Swapmeet once. He floored it, the Beetle beside him floored it. The beetle in front of me bogged down, and I had to back off in my bus . The beetle outside him shot off.

    I am using one of these dreaded carburettors but it is basically plumbed in place of a stock carburettor complete with preheated air and exhaust heat risers that work.
     
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  11. Just a quick update.... I adjusted the mix screw, and its never ran as well!
    Over 7 years I've had it, and its suddenly become a different beast!
     
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  12. It’s been a warm sunny day today tho akin to Californian weather o_O oh and Barnsley :)
     
  13. Look at him... he’s laughing at us all!! FDC5D05B-E19E-4203-9066-DD440CA1DFFC.jpeg
     
  14. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    No, he's wondering when you're going to make him room in that garage or whether he'd get in with a run up.
     
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  15. Barry Haynes

    Barry Haynes I dance in leopard skin mankini’s

    I did not recommend that at all it was Bentley:thumbsup:
     
  16. You'd have to get the cat to touch its toes before you could swing it.....!
     
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