Gosh we should be grateful to the people who created this place ,it's full of informative information and it is the only forum dedicated to the vehicle we own - a vw type 2b baywindow van , there are other forums that encompass the whole range and there is another forum dedicated to the type2a but only this place caters for our special needs and i am glad of it . Whatever else goes on , meets , friendships , fall outs , spats , romance all pales into insignificance when you remember what this place does well and continues to do well whatever goes on outside of these hallo'ed walls - its a blooming good information station and a good place to buy stuff or get advise on a future purchase, its well stocked with informative members ,some less knowledgeable than other but nonetheless still able and willing to advise . God knows where i would have found the info to sort my van without it ,it's nice to see everyone is now looking after the tlb information station folks Thanks all - keep up the good work ! And thanks Chrisradioman for my pressy today